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amazin New user 13 Posts |
What are the 10 theories of magic?
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shek Loyal user Los Angeles, CA 244 Posts |
The 10 theories of magic consist of various ways to hype magic products
No offense to T11 |
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SoCalPro Inner circle Southern California 1634 Posts |
What is the point of this thread?
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Y2John Inner circle 1498 Posts |
I think the topic creator is just interested in knowing the 10 theories, though I'm not sure if this is the right section as they are hardly the latest and greatest...
But then what section would this belong in |
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Joshua Barrett Inner circle Cincinnati, Ohio 3631 Posts |
Check tarbell vol 1....
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emanmagic5 Special user Toronto, Canada 614 Posts |
Apperance
Vanish Levitation transformation transportation penetration mentilism restoration attraction escapes Theory 11! |
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
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On 2007-10-01 10:18, amazin wrote: Where did you get the idea that there were ten theories of magic?
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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Joshua Barrett Inner circle Cincinnati, Ohio 3631 Posts |
It was some hype idea people had when T11 launched....
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SorcerousRelic New user Montclair, NJ 6 Posts |
Here is some information that will provide you with some insight on the ten theories of magic:
http://jourdanrombough.com/2011/the-ten-theories-of-magic Enjoy |
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MaxfieldsMagic Inner circle Instead of practicing, I made 3009 Posts |
The only real "theory" of magic you need, IMO, is "Do people find it entertaining? Does it amaze and baffle them?" If you say no to either of those questions, it's not magic, and there's no point in performing it as such.
Now appearing nightly in my basement.
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Stellan Special user Sweden 580 Posts |
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On 2011-10-21 09:58, MaxfieldsMagic wrote: Statements like this are bad for magic and just reveal ignorance. It is better to encourage magicians to think deeper about the art.
"There is no reality, only perception."
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Dan Bernier Inner circle Canada 2298 Posts |
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On 2011-10-21 00:30, SorcerousRelic wrote: Why only 10 theories? Why limit it, or the discussion? I think this can be good if we remove the limit, or preconcieved idea's on what magic theories are. I'd love to hear more on gestures and postures when performing. I think this is vital for any performing magician. I am recently working on my hand movememnts and body language. Just saying. Let's talk about as many theories as we can. What about theories on misdirection and audience control, etc.
"If you're going to walk in the rain, don't complain about getting wet!"
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Stellan Special user Sweden 580 Posts |
These are no theories. It is only a list of possible magic effects. A theory is something else.
"There is no reality, only perception."
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MaxfieldsMagic Inner circle Instead of practicing, I made 3009 Posts |
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On 2011-10-21 10:37, Stellan wrote: I've read plenty of magic theory and will continue to do so, but as far as the audience is concerned, I stand by the original statement.
Now appearing nightly in my basement.
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SorcerousRelic New user Montclair, NJ 6 Posts |
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On 2011-10-21 11:15, Stellan wrote: Correct, these are magic effects. Did you get a chance to read the end of my blog on why these are ALSO theories? I also define what a theory is as well. read it when you get a chance |
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SorcerousRelic New user Montclair, NJ 6 Posts |
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On 2011-10-21 11:00, Dan Bernier wrote: @InnerCircle, wow, excellent point. Misdirection and audience control are HUGE! I think they are both an are that are used in acheiving all of the 10 theories. I love where this is going. I say no limit as well, lets really beak this down and explore it! |
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MeetMagicMike Inner circle Gainesville Fl 3501 Posts |
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On 2011-10-21 00:30, SorcerousRelic wrote: I don't care what that page says. Those are not "Theories". They are a list of 10 possible effects. An adherent of this system might regard the whole concept as The Theory of Magic but those individual things are not theories. That is just stretching a definition too far. |
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slyhand Inner circle Good ole Virginia 1908 Posts |
Not so sure about those ten effects as theories. Also not so sure those are the "Official" ten effects.
Seems like mentalism covers a boat load of effects... mind control, Identification, thought reading, thought transmission, prediction, etc... What about adding Animation and Invulnerability to the list.
I am getting so tired of slitting the throats of people who say that I am a violent psychopath.
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SorcerousRelic New user Montclair, NJ 6 Posts |
Added so far in this form are: Animation (Ex: cartoon deck) and Invulnerability (bending quarter, nail or spoon) by @slyhand and Misdirection and audience control by @DanBernier.
I know some disagree they are 'theories' but it does make a lot of sense to me that these are the theories that create magic. you can study and practice each theory to master the art of magic as a whole. the original list is: 1.) Production: Having something or someone appear. Variations include: producing cards from thin air, appearing Candle, Rabbit from a hat, etc. 2.) Vanish: Making something or someone disappear. Variations include: vanishing card, vanishing coin, etc. 3.) Transportation: Making something or someone relocate magically to another location. Variations include: A person disappearing and reappearing in a different location. NOTE: Also referred to as Transposition. 4.) Transformation: Causing something or someone to change appearance. Variations include: an orange changing into an apple, or an ace of spades turning into an ace of hearts. 5.) Multiplication: Making something or someone appear repeatedly in succession. Variations include: a deck turning into all of the same card (a hybrid of #1 and #4, or multiplying balls between your fingertips. NOTE: Also confused with Attraction, which is not a Theory of Magic but a Law of Science. 6.) Penetration: Making something or someone pass through another person or object. Variations include coin through sealed soda can, etc. 7.) Restoration: Restoring something or someone to its original condition after being cut, torn or broken apart. Variations include: torn and restored card or newspaper, or sawing a woman in half. 8.) Levitation: Making something or someone float and move impossibly in mid-air. Variations include floating objects or people. NOTE: Also known as suspension, which variations include: magical balancing (still the defiance of gravity) like when a person’s body is unevenly balanced, resting partially on a chair. 9.) Escapes: When a person can magically escape an impossible situation usually with constraints. Houdini largely focused in this area. 10.) Mentalism: A vast category in magic that involve mind power. Variations include: mind-reading, prediction, telekinesis, NLP, etc. And what was added so far is: Animation Invulnerability Misdirection audience control I am really interested in hearing everyone's thoughts as this appears to be such a debated issue in magic! |
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SorcerousRelic New user Montclair, NJ 6 Posts |
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On 2011-10-22 07:41, slyhand wrote: Hey slyhand. did you mean: Animation (Ex: cartoon deck) and Invulnerability (bending quarter, nail or spoon) If not, please include some examples |
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