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Wanlu
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Hi everyone,

I know a lot of magicians in my country and perhaps all over the world who mix magic and ventriloquism...

Im thinking of offering an act with just FULL ADULT VENTRILOQUISM AND ILLUSIONS.

Perhaps open the act with the voice in the cup routine, then followed by the 1st figure...then the 1st Illusion...followed by the Cable Vent Masks...then the 2nd Illusion....followed by the 2nd figure...then end it with the 3rd Illusion.

I did a similar act last night but with only 1 Illsuion to end the act and it was a killer routine, imagine if I add two more Illusions after each figure.

ANY SUGGESTIONS PLEASE?

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Wanlu
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On 2007-10-23 12:49, Wanlu wrote:


I know a lot of magicians in my country and perhaps all over the world who mix magic and ventriloquism...




What I mean about this is...In my country (Philippines) a lot of magicians do a mix of parlour magic and ventriloquism...the usual doves, rabbits, cards, etc etc etc...and they mix it with a simple vent routine just to lenghten the act Smile

I was hoping I can do an act that's basically unusual because it will be an FULL ADULT VENT ACT MIXED WITH STAGE ILLUSIONS Smile what do you think?

I will try it soon and I hope it works Smile
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I don't know if you want an illusion where one of your vent figures "comes to life" but Jim Gerrish's "Puppet Theater Illusion" in Book 3 of his PVC Pipe Illusions (on my site) is one way to make it happen. You'd have to get an assistant who could dress up in the same kind of outfit as, for example, the old man figure you display in some of your photos. Jim's Illusion is designed for a different kind of puppet, but all you want is the ability to transform the old man vent figuire into the real live old man character.
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Wanlu
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Hi Spellbinder...that's really interesting and Ill check it out.

Thanks

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I was also planning to use the chair suspension on one of my figures...does it make sense? Smile
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On 2007-10-24 03:10, Wanlu wrote:
I was also planning to use the chair suspension on one of my figures...does it make sense? Smile


Seems like a waste. If you could take a child from the audience and pound a wooden or metal rod into his body and then screw him onto a hidden support, wouldn't that make a better suspension? Well, with a vent figure, you can do just that, so why waste a principle made for delicate humans on a dummy?
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Wanlu,
Why not try a Spirit Seance? Hold the cloth in front of the character and have his head disappear - then emerge floating behind the cloth. This way the figure stays "alive" in front of the audience. Could add some great comedy when he sees his body sitting to one side.

I know you want to add illusions, but I think you'll find this creates the same effect - a floating - with more humor and its easier to carry!
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Wanlu, a chair suspension might not have the impact using a relatively lightweight puppet. But then again, you can always experiment.

If you don't have it, get your hands on a copy of "Ventrilo-Magic" by Bill Boley. Bill had some great ideas for illusions that could be done with vent figures, including a suspension effect. You should be able to get this book from Maher Studios or Axtell Expressions.

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Look into mentalism. You can have some funny conversations about the figure reading your mind, but you are unable to read the figure's mind, or the other way around. You finally have a prediction in a chest in plain view.

Another thing might be to put a blindfold on your figure and do a one-ahead answer to sealed questions. That could be really funny if done right.

If you can do a self levitation, have your figure claim to do a self levitation, but instead of the figure levitating. you levitate.
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Wanlu
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Thanks everyone...very good points Smile

I booked my first Ventroloquism and Illusion gig already Smile I hope it works!!!

I will keep you all posted. Smile

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Wanlu,
The late Bill Boley sold plans for a dummy suspension. Since the dummy is very light it doesn't require much. His used steel pipe to create a super-x style suspension. I bought one on ebay several years ago but never used it. I'm moving more towards vent rather than magic.

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Hi Oliver,

Actually, Im trying to do the same thing. Im trying to concentrate on a full vent act but will still do my illusions...just the illusions and hopefully no more birds and rabbits in the meantime Smile

Why? just to be different Smile

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I came up with a new word Id like to use for my act...Ventrilusionist Smile

A mix of Ventriloquism and two or three stage Illusions Smile
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I think the dummy suspension can be a great illusion if presented well. I never used it because I was already moving more props for a show than I should have been. I've eliminated my bird and rabbit (found them good homes that means). Since the dummy is light there are many ways to construct a suitable suspension. Boley's was cheap and easy, but heavier than needed for holding up a dummy.
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Hi everyone,

I tried my new act and it worked out real well Smile Something new to offer in my area actually Smile

I call it...

VENTRILUSIONIST- Visual and Voice Illusions

Featuring the Voice in the Box followed by Don Dom (Payes) then the Broomstick Illusion...followed by the Dual Instant Puppets (Masks) followed by the Modern Art Illusion...then the Remote Drawing Board (Axtell) followed by Nicolo (Poyner) and finally the Compresher Illusion Smile

For a kidshow...I took out the Payes and added my Axtell pals (Cry Baby, Orangutan and Cockatoo) plus my MAT duck and the Tipper Monkey and settled with just two stage Illusions Smile

Im planning to alternate the Masks with a Big Baby from Axtell as soon as I get one Smile
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Wanlu,
That sounds like quite a show!.
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Hi Oliver,

I wanted to offer somthing different and I came up with this Smile I booked it twice already...and two more lined up Smile

Its much easier to do than the standard magic show Smile


Im actually enjoying it and Im selling it as my Signature Act here in Manila for nobody has done a similar act yet Smile

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I performed this act three times last weekend and it went quite well Smile

Much easier to handle but I guess not as much variety compared to the regular magic show that I used to do Smile

Im hoping I can market this act Smile
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After having a drainage system put in my back yard, my thoughts turned to getting extra PVC piping to do the Boley Suspension. Like others more to carry (props) has kept me from adding it over the years. The PVC piping would be lighter as well as more compact for carrying.

Tip over box for production....

Water suspension....(if you wanted to go all out and had your figure in a "wet suit".

I use balls from my and my puppets mouth ..(Vito Lupo meets Ventriloquist)

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Harris,
PVC should be fine for the dummy suspension. Sounds good.

Maybe someone can help me with an idea for an illusion. I'm looking for a way tom make Dodger (the hard figure in my Avatar) appear during my act. I'm considering building a tip over trunk but would like to hear any other suggestions. I don't like to carry extra gear so the illusion should double as his case.

Any suggestions?

Oliver
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