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Eddini_81976 Inner circle 2183 Posts |
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On 2004-04-17 14:59, bblumen wrote: Shadow Principle? I (HAD) the trick once but still didn't know what the "Shadow Principle" meant. Thanks, Ed, (Eddini).
"Treat Others As You'd Want To Be Treated" - Jesus Christ
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DarryltheWizard Loyal user 238 Posts |
After having read this thread, I have a roomful of props that I don't use. Most of the things I don't use look too propy , plastic-looking, too bulky. I believe that if you were the one that invented these effects ,it would probably be a miracle in your hands. If the trick were that good, then you wouldn't be advertising it. The magic is not in the device , but in the deceptionist. Dan Harlan's starcle only requires a cheap paper napkin, yet with the right music and routine , it is a truly great performance piece-one that I use in every show. The worst: Mikame's pom-pom stick does not work smoothly; I bought a vanishing milk carton effect and when I tilted the container a white painted wooden dowel made its untimely appearance. I laughed hysterically when I realized I paid $20.00 U.S. for this! The most deceptive vanishing milk is on Harlan's Play Big Pack Small Birthday tape. I should have believed that 90 year old magician who only performed 6 tricks in his lifetime-all classics of magic. It's too late now, for every time I go to the washroom , I have to move over a giant monstrosity of a square circle to use the toilet!
Darryl the Unwise Wizard
DarryltheWizard
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RandyM Special user 579 Posts |
DaffyDoug... You're killing me!!!! LMAO!!! I needed a good laugh!
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rannie Inner circle 4375 Posts |
I was dissapointrd with IMPOSIBLE DEVINATION.
"If you can't teach an old dog new tricks, trick the old dog to learn."
-Rannie Raymundo- aka The Boss aka The Manila Enforcer www.rannieraymundo.com www.tapm.proboards80.net |
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daffydoug Eternal Order Look mom! I've got 14077 Posts |
Randy,
Heck I don't even know what I said that was funny! I feel like Rodney "I get no respect. I was so poor as a kid, I had to slide down the hill on my brother! My wife likes to talk during sex...she called me from her hotel room... I went to the proctologist...he stuck his finger in my mouth!... I opened the door on Halloween...the kids gave ME candy! This morning after I shaved I told my wife I feel ten years younger...she said why don't you shave at night? When I played in the sandbox, the cats kept covering me up... My parents hated me....my bath toys were a toaster and a hair dryer... My wife and I were happy for twenty years...then we met. I asked my old man if I could go ice skating on the lake...he told me wait till it gets warmer. NOW I'm funny!!! But seriously folks, there's nothing funny about being ripped off by a magic dealer. Nothing funny at all.
The difficult must become easy, the easy beautiful and the beautiful magical.
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eryanic Special user 683 Posts |
Invisible hole and mini chop cups by magicaffex....
backs to the future by randy walkman was pretty dissapointing too.. |
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daffydoug Eternal Order Look mom! I've got 14077 Posts |
I just remembered...Cobra Tie!! Boy was that ever dumb. Anybody here get stung with that clunker??
Do you want to take mine off my hands??
The difficult must become easy, the easy beautiful and the beautiful magical.
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Christopher Special user 531 Posts |
I had the cobra tie for about a week. Never could figure out how to perform it properly without looking like an idiot.
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Jared Inner circle Rhode Island, USA 1573 Posts |
I'd have to say that, Ben Harris' Alida was probably my worst purchase ever. The sad part was that I actually saw a live demonstration of it at Hank Lee's before buying it. Rule of thumb: NEVER GO TO A DRINKING ESTABLISHMENT BEFORE VISITING A MAGIC SHOP.... After this humiliating experience I realized that it's time to seek professional help.
There should also be a written law in the magic community that states, if someone markets a universally recognized piece of garbage, then the inventor should be either given a choice of not being allowed to market anything for a minimum 2-years (probation) or forced to refund every penny to the customers he/she stole from. -Jared |
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daffydoug Eternal Order Look mom! I've got 14077 Posts |
Boy Jared, I'll second that idea!
Christopher, I hear what you are saying about the Cobra Tie. Sounds really great in the adds, but when you get it and try to learn to work it, I'm like, you mean I have to PULL on this thing and NOT let anybody see what I'm doing? Talk about your angle problems! And as far as what Jared said about Alida, I never got drunk, but it still seems silly to me. If you have a half a brain, you gotta think "Umm, is their a SLIGHT possibility that someone might bend their neck and look UNDER this card? Then what? "Hey! He's got an e----ug under the card!!!" (spoken in a loud enough voice to wake the dead, of course) Does anybody realize that at that time you automatically look like a doofus, and become an instant LAUGHING STOCK? It's no wonder we magicians are gun shy about what we purchase from the dealers. Hey! I just thought about another clunker that I got hooked in to buying. It's called "The spring" In glorious terms the add describes how you can draw a spring in the palm of your hand, and then poke pencils, keys, whatever into your closed fist, and they JUMP out several feet into the air. HA! What a crock! What you get in reality is a the most used utility device in magic, which I can't say the name of, because I'll TIP it off, but normally this device would get two THUMBS up. Anyway, the device has as it's modus operandi something else which I'm not allowed to say, because you guys might all BAND around me, and choke me for letting out this wonderful "secret" Anyway, the bottom line is this: IT DON'T WORK! The pen or whatever always slips past the secret device, and just sits there motionless. This is a good way for the dealers to suck at least eight bucks out of your pocket. Uggghh.
The difficult must become easy, the easy beautiful and the beautiful magical.
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el toro Veteran user Across the atlantic 325 Posts |
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On 2004-04-17 18:38, CardMaker wrote: So you think invisible deck is one of your worst purchases ? I can`t agree on that one. I have bought a bunch of tricks that I never have performed and never will. The worst was maybe a gaffed deck called " Sneak-a-peek" from Penguin. |
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Rennie Inner circle I think I have about 1826 Posts |
I just remembered another jem that I purchased about 25 years ago from Paul Diamond's Magic Shop.
It was called ( I believe ) Phantom Coin by Russ Burns, it involved a weird hook-up that ran a cable ( similar to a bicycle brake cable )up one sleeve and down the other sleeve.The portion sticking out of the sleeve had magicians wax on it and the other end had a loop. What the effect was, you had a half dollar placed on the part with the wax and with your other hand you could manipulate the coin to the end of your fingetips or make the coin appear on top of a fan of cards.After making the coin appear in your hand or on the cards, you pulled on the cable with the other hand to make it go up your sleeve to complete the vanish.Trust me this was a PIP.I even mentioned it to Paul when he was lecturing here, he said "you are not doing it right " yeh right.. Rennie
The effect is the important thing, how you achieve it is not.......
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Larry Barnowsky Inner circle Cooperstown, NY where bats are made from 4770 Posts |
You should have kept it. It sold on Ebay recently for well over a hundred dollars.
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Ron Crumley Elite user 1950 - 2012 448 Posts |
Rennie, I was the other person who bought a version of The Phantom Coin!
My only successful performance of this effect took place after days of practice and having all the audience members wear a pirate patch over one eye and closing the other. |
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daffydoug Eternal Order Look mom! I've got 14077 Posts |
Hey Rennie,
I'm glad I am not the only one who purchased that MONSTROSITY from Paul! The exact name was "Phantom At The Fingertips" Remember now? Anyway, I was instructed to go out and purchase (Yup, spend MORE money) an archers arm covering. Then I was supposed to take glue and glue the device to that, then after all this rigamarole, you had to fit it on yourself, and hide it under your coat (Yeah, RIGHT!) and then after all those hours of headaches the %$@&^ thing STILL didn't work. I can see that you have been in magic a LONG time, Rennie, because that was a LOOONG time back! You know, that contraption reminds me of something Harry Anderson uses in his act as a comedy gag. He calls it the "Grappler!" Have you ever seen it? It's side splitting funny!
The difficult must become easy, the easy beautiful and the beautiful magical.
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truthteller Inner circle 2584 Posts |
The Grappler is a Keplinger Knee Spread Style Holdout and is/was a tool used by gamblers. It was/is completely deceptive in the right person's "hands."
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Rennie Inner circle I think I have about 1826 Posts |
Larry,
Who paid $100.00 for that ? I have a set of "Killer Red Caps" for sale... Ron, Was that thing a joke or what, I bought it without a demo, my mistake. Daffydoug, That was it "Phantom at the Fingertips", when I ordered it I expected a small box to be delivered, when it arrived it was unusually large.I opened it and found this coiled cable inside and said "what is this", as you know I found out very quick,spoke to Paul & he just said that I was not standing right ( he was not the friendliest magic dealer as you may know ). As far as being into magic a looong time, I would have to say yes to that.I believe I purchased that contraption in the mid 70's but had been into magic off and on years before that. I did learn not to buy any magic without seeing a demo 1st, after this thing. I believe I did see Harry Anderson do the grappler routine. Glad I was not the only one suckered into the Phantom. Rennie
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Michele Veteran user Taiwan 301 Posts |
Here is my list:
Silver Shifter Float Impossible Twist Flight 204 Matrix 2003 |
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SeanJohn New user Finland 52 Posts |
For me it's Just Think by Adrian Sullivan
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ClintonMagus Inner circle Southwestern Southeast 3997 Posts |
Let me make a suggestion - have a "grab bag" night at your local magic club meeting. Take these tricks that everyone thinks are so awful, put them in individual unmarked bags, let everyone select something, sight unseen, and then give them ten or fifteen minutes to develop a routine and a presentation around the item.
You might be surprised what some of the creative minds can come up with, and you might change your mind about the trick itself. Amos McCormick
Things are more like they are today than they've ever been before...
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