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On 2003-05-25 21:51, Larry Barnowsky wrote:
I have used the Now U See It gimmick as an opener for a misers dream routine. Both hands are held wide open and shown on both sides. Then the first coin appears, and disappears just as convincingly. This is about as magical as you can get. By using both hands together you can achieve pretty good angle coverage. I would use the gimmick sparingly as part of a coin routine and not as a one time effect. This is one of those sleeper items that I'm happy more people are either unaware of or think it's too difficult to pull off correctly.


I agree....this can look like absolutely real magic with time and effort invested into it....Indeed....maybe I am missing something ....but I am generally very critical about effects I buy ....and rarely truly satisfied...and this effect impressed me right out of the ox
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Cosmos. What a waste of time!
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"Paper coin banknote" from Don's Magic in london.

VERY expenssive and very poor quality item.


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On 2005-06-18 02:59, MagicChris wrote:
Cosmos. What a waste of time!


Cosmos a waste of time????? You obviously do not have the Cosmos I have....or you simply don't know anything about magic.....Indeed...you may not share my great enthusiasm for the effect but to catagorize it as one of your worst effects bought speaks more of you than it does of the effect.
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My vote goes to Killer Red Caps and Just Think.
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Nightmare Weaver, you took the words right out of my mouth with killer red caps.
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Flight 204: Sorry Sean, it's a very cool idea (I mean REALLY cool), but it is just one of thise things that only works on camera.

Penomenon: It doesn't work (at least for me).

The Dancing Silk: Never used it. Probably never will.
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Alright!! Enough already!! I've held off as long as I can with an idea that I have wanted to post and send to Steve Brooks for a long time. Three thoughts have been swirling around in my mind for about a year and they have been struggling to coalese into a new Café web page!! The three thoughts:

1. "One Man's Trash is Another Man's Treasure", and,
2. "If it REALLY the Worst Magic Thing You Ever Had, surely ANYTHING Else would be an Improvement", and,
3. "Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is"

Here's the concept: I propose that Steve add a special section under the Buy, Sell, Trade area where we can get rid of our most hated and perceived VALUELESS item(s). By posting in this area, we are also providing a public service by alerting the other members that we really thing the item is a real stinker and they have been warned and acquire at their own risk.

The posting in such an area also solves many an ethical dilemma of "How can you, in good conscience, foist this turkey off onto a fellow magician?" "How can you do such a dastardly thing and still look yourself in the mirror each morning?" By posting in this new area, your conscience is clear.

By posting in this area, no long-winded diatribes are required to justify your position. The mere act of posting in this section is warning enough. All have been forewarned and no further lengthy descriptions are required to put the world on notice.

We might call the new area "Trade your Turkey" or ""Trade your Dog" or something similar. I'm not certain what the ultimate "trade rules" criteria should be, but, right now I'm thinking if you REALLY REALLY think this item is totally worthless, perhaps you should put your money where your mouth is and accept the first publicly posted trade offer that appears under your trade offer. (S&H would be extra because some turkeys weigh more than others.)

Maybe, just maybe, this would result in a win-win situation for both parties. (grin) Each person gets out from under the worst piece of magic they own AND they have a chance to better themselves in the trade AND all ethicla dilemmas are resolved!! Certainly, you can do no worse than that of keeping your vile hated objcet of scorn and derision. Think of this as a positive Mental Health alternative.

The offer is made "kind of" tongue-in-cheek (but not quite). Kind of a Serendipity Thing--but I throw it out there for your consideration.

I've now really got to go to my room and take my meds. Later.

Mike

P.S. An added benefit might be that by forcing people to post these types of comments in such a highly pre-qualified area (such as "Trade Your Turkey"), we might stop a lot of the pi**ing and moaning that seems to eminate here on the Café with little or no consequences nor with little critical evaluation being made before such a rant is made about an object. Perhaps if you were required to trade such a turkey as a condition of posting your rant, we might get a more valuable perspective about an object. Certainly a critiquer's credibility would rise inestimably in my mind if I knew the person was also offering to trade this supposed turkey for ANYTHING else without condition. And, at the very least, by segregating such negative comments into a defined isolated area, we could be assured that we would not keep finding these types of comments sprinkled (without warning) anywhere (or everywhere) else on the Café.
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On 2003-02-21 10:39, iSawThat wrote:
Bob Hummer's Whirling Card is a bit on the bad side, as is Sam Woodrow's Heavy Metal and Out of Control. I'm a Sankey fan, and when he advertised these on his website and endorsed them I thought they might be good. But I've come to learn slowly that Sankey's gimmicked effects aren't really up to standard, and his videos and books are a much better gauge of this guy's creativity.

Nobody sells the Hummer Whirlaway Card exactly as Hummer performed it. The real method is tipped in the Crandall collection from Tops. It works, but nobody will do it.


Posted: Jun 19, 2005 3:40pm
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On 2003-06-13 21:11, xaratax wrote:
Talking about bad videos...

Peki and the art of floating.

The information is good, but old-fashioned.

The video is Chinese -- On Too Long.


Posted: Jun 19, 2005 3:47pm
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On 2004-04-19 18:17, daffydoug wrote:
Hey Rennie,

I'm glad I am not the only one who purchased that MONSTROSITY from Paul!

The exact name was "Phantom At The Fingertips" Remember now?

Anyway, I was instructed to go out and purchase (Yup, spend MORE money) an archers arm covering. Then I was supposed to take glue and glue the device to that, then after all this rigamarole, you had to fit it on yourself, and hide it under your coat (Yeah, RIGHT!)
and then after all those hours of headaches the %$@&^ thing STILL didn't work.

I can see that you have been in magic a LONG time, Rennie, because that was a LOOONG time back!

You know, that contraption reminds me of something Harry Anderson uses in his act as a comedy gag. He calls it the "Grappler!" Have you ever seen it? It's side splitting funny!


This was, indeed, one of the top ten pieces of junk of all time. But Mark Wilson actually used something like this on one of his specials.

You need to have an assistant who can operate the rod for you behind your back.


Posted: Jun 19, 2005 4:28pm
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Killer Red Caps. I know it's a redundant listing, but I could never see what I needed to. Maybe it's my eyes. But for me it was junk.
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Bill,
I have Killer Red Caps at the top of my junk list.
I would like to sell my set, but am just too ashamed to stick it on someone else.
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Hi,
If the worst trick is the most impractical trick, I have to say Braco's floating ball and Coin matrix 2003.
Per
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In my opinion their is little bad magic in magic. Often the bad magic is due to bad or cheap construction of the product. Or because it may be a knock off - rip off product. And in this case people get what they pay for.

When I worked in my Dads magic shop we got in the Wandering Hole. many people saw this and thought it was bad magic. I worked out a routine for it and sold many at the Houdini Convention that year. And when Terry Vecky saw me do the trick he got one and said - teach me that - because that is the way to do that routine.

I feel the bad part of magic is in the instructions. because most instructions are not very clear. And almost every trick in the old days of the magic shop. I had to work out a different way to do it for the demonstration.

The instruction problem is starting to change a little now with DVD instructions but it is taking time. When a kid buys magic and gets a small paper with very bad instructions on it like for the linking rings. I think it is very bad because it is very hard for them to do the trick with instructions like that.

I told this story in the Café before about Eugean Burger. He took two tricks that some people would consider to be bad magic. The Hyrum the haunted hank and the out to lunch. Then he added great patter and a spirit writing story. Then these two bad out of date effects became great magic theater.

In many cases magic sells what the lay audience might consider to be junk. Like a shot glass, a ball, a rubber band and safety pin. Put it together and it becomes the vanishing glass of liquid. And it the right hands a great table magic trick.

But to a kid getting into magic or the lay audience - and both do not understand it. Or take the time to learn it or perform it - Junk?
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When I first got into magic I ordered from catalogs. Kanter's of PA. was a huge catalog I'd never seen anything like it. I saved my money and bought some stuff I could afford. One of the tricks was called Skullduggery. It read good in the catalog (don't they always) but when I got the props they were cheaply made even by magic standards and at one point in the instructions, there was an illustration of a transfer of these three plastic sticks from your left hand, to your other left hand. Wish I still had the catalog - It would be a collectable and worth much more than all the magic I purchased and waited for weeks to get from Kanter's.

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Great to see this thread alive and well.

came across "psycho ball" in a box the other day, using my abilities from its instructions it is now in the trash.

oliver
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Hideo Kato's "Wandering Hole" was a really great concept. There was another one that came out before that -- looked like a "Fraidy Cat Rabbit" prop with a piece of white masonite that had a red arrow and a hole in it. It was a real woofer.

There was an early Zig-Zag card that was produced by a fellow from Texas. This thing was made of plexiglas®. He had it at the TAOM in Fort Worth. While he was showing it to Dai Vernon, the doors kept falling off of it. Vernon turned to one of us and said "That's the biggest piece of crap I ever saw in my life! Tell him it's GREAT!"

No amount of re-write on the instructions to that one would have saved it.
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On 2005-07-02 11:58, Bill Palmer wrote:
Hideo Kato's "Wandering Hole" was a really great concept.

Jay Marshall told me that it could have inspired the pen through anything!
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John Cornelius' Instructions state rather plainly that it inspired the Pen Through Anything.

Posted: Jul 2, 2005 11:57pm

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The worst trick I have bought is the cups and balls. But I keep doing it and doing it and doing it. Will I ever learn?
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On 2005-07-02 11:58, Bill Palmer wrote:

There was an early Zig-Zag card that was produced by a fellow from Texas. This thing was made of plexiglas®. He had it at the TAOM in Fort Worth. While he was showing it to Dai Vernon, the doors kept falling off of it. Vernon turned to one of us and said "That's the biggest piece of crap I ever saw in my life! Tell him it's GREAT!"


Thanks Bill and our late Professor! That is the sort of stuff that reminds me I haven't lost my mind.
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I bought a trick from Hank lee's called the bandit. The description sounded great (all his do) but when I got it I couldn't see it fooling anyone. I was fooled into buying it.
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God, how do I choose. Maybe protocol 153-51 because the gimmick magically dissapeared before I could even use it. . .
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