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I have done this in the middle of shows where I must misdirect in order to do the setup. I do this as an opener in the lecture for one reason, it sets the tone of my lecture, it wakes them up and gets them in the mood for utterly mad methods. I have stronger openers for public shows, but the reaction to this is a like a fish on a hook.
The entire effect is true to the methodology of magic effects. In this case I simulate an entire effect and all of its moves to achieve the impact.
More in a private message.
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Ian
You are my kind of magician. You do simple and powerful magic. Is this effect taught in your lecture? If so I will start a one man campaign to hire you to lecture at a club near me.
NO JOKE.
Al
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Okay Al,

I just went to Ian's website and purchased the effect. I'm thinking $10 is a bargain. Al - I'm going to know the secret very soon, and seeing as how we are such buds, guess what? I'm not telling!!! Ha...
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Old buddy, old pal, I've been all over Ian's two sites, just how did you find it? Ten bucks is no problem.
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Ian PM'd me the following note:

Glad you liked this. It is sneaky and has fooled thousands in my lecture since 1970's. It is available in 3 or four ways. My lecture...give me a shout and have your club book me. Or go to http://usmagic.biz/lecture.html and it is on my rope lecture DVD, the lecture notes DVD, or separately as its own DVD.
It is not usually sold to those who didn't see the lecture.
-Ian

Can you believe I asked for someone to reveal to me the secrets of a trick and the originator of the trick pm's me. How embarrassing! Ian seems like a good guy though. I was happy to send him my $10.
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Tony
Thank you for your help.

Ian
I have passed your youtube video on to two local magic club presidents, and ordered your rope lecture DVD of this trick. Up until today "the Vishnu Rope Mystery" was my favorite rope trick.
Thanks
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Okay - I have received the effect. It is awesome. You won't be disappointed, and Ian is definitely a very nice guy! In November my magic club's theme is "rings and strings" - Guess what I will be performing? When they go nuts trying to figure it out, I will encourage the leaders to schedule Ian for a lecture. Thanks Ian... Great job!
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Looks Great !
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Here I thought I knew all there was to know about PN. What a humbling experience viewing this routine. Wonderful thinking Ian, although I must admit I can't (after viewing it three times) figure out what that thinking was.

I have to have this!

Andy
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Andy, this works for layman as well, but with magicians, the subtlety and "joke" is that I know they are not watching me.
I have done this in my lecture for over 30 years and the reaction is still the same. You should have the link within the hour.
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Ian,

I have the download. Very devious "out-of-the-box" thinking Ian! Can't wait to spring it on the local Ring at the next meeting!

Andy
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It's neat. I haven't downloaded the method but I think I know how it's done. But I can't see why you would do this except for magicians; and their suspicions will be aroused by the fact that you don't show the ropes properly at the start, plus another discrepancy that has already been mentioned. For laymen, the original is more magical because they inspect the ropes at the start and they clearly see them the same length during the count.
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Robert
I bought it, and I love it.
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So, who is in control? To state that you have a small, medium and long rope is a fact that would not be suspicious. In doing the original method, you only have a brief time that they are apart, and held at the fingertips and causes no more suspicion than not handing them out in the middle of the trick.
The beauty of this is that there is all of the misdirection and mischief of the original and you do of course show the ropes to be the same length.
The argument that you give that there are suspicions in not showing the ropes at the beginning is not any more valid than not showing the ropes as separate and long.
The only valid argument is that it is best to do this as an opening effect (I do have a method to do this anytime in the act, but it is not commercial enough to convey the method in instruction).
This effect has its place, and it IS best for magicians, or as your turn to do a trick for friends at a party and not during a regular show.
It is a lecture piece designed to set the tone for the balance of my lecture, and it sure is worth the look of confusion when I separate the ropes in their long state.
This also has its place where the original professor has been around and the wake up call on it is almost a sucker gag.
One other thing is to do all of the cool moves before you do the reveal. Swing the three around, lay it over your hand, tie the three ropes with knots etc.
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I've never done any rope tricks however this one has created a desire to learn a few! Any suggestions where to start guys?
Thanks in advance!
Mick
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On 2007-11-06 07:45, Al Angello wrote:
Robert
I bought it, and I love it.


But will you perform it for non-magicians?
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Actually Robert I plan to make it part of my SAM4 stage competition this year. Last year I came in third, and this year I plan on doing better.
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The absolute best investment is Daryl series on rope. He uses methods from scores of sources and his instruction is clear, intelligent and entertaining. He has an encyclopedic reference of routines and gives credit to the originators.
I learned from George Sands and do Sandsational rope, and Sandslide. Of course there is Phil Wilmarth and for his ring on rope, Aldo Columbini. The Abbotts encyclopedia of rope is a wealth of vitrually any rope effect, also Eric Lewis has some great stuff.
My rope lecture has some rethinking on the cut and restored and a superb change bag/Linking ropes routine.
Now that I've tooted my own horn, good luck.
--Magic Ian
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Just ordered this...looking forward to receiving the download.
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On 2007-11-06 17:47, MickeyPainless wrote:
I've never done any rope tricks however this one has created a desire to learn a few! Any suggestions where to start guys?
Thanks in advance!
Mick


Mick,

Magic Ian is not steering you wrong. The Daryl 3 volume set on rope magic is superb. Daryl's DVDs teach rope magic using just rope or using rope and ring, etc. There is so much rope magic in these DVDs, you may begin to wonder "when will it end"?


Add to that Richard Sanders' "Fiber Optics" DVD and you've got enough diverse and entertaining magic to last you a lifetime. Fiber Optics starts off where Professor's Nightmare ends.

I know some people like learning magic from books, but, IMHO, in the case of rope magic, it is soooo much easier to understand and learn the moves off of a video.

And, if you want to learn finger ring magic (using rope, shoelace or velvet cord), try:

Gregory Wilson's "Ring Leader"
Jay Scott Berry's "Symphony on the Ring and Ribbon"
Bob Miller's "Relentless Ring and String"

Hope this helps.

Mike

P.S. While I don't know all the guys on here that "specialize" in rope magic, Al Angello is definitely one such person. If you have any questions in regards rope magic, just shoot Al a PM. I'm certain that he would be more than happy to help you in that regard.
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