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Alex Linian
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Here's why Criss Angel's an idiot (and a hypocrite)...

Criss Angel explains that what he is doing is a trick IN HIS SHOW, but NOT ON THE STREET!

He does not explain that what he is doing isn't real to the people he originally performs for; (the people you see screaming on television) or else he wouldn't get emotional responces. The reactions he gets on his show ALL COME FROM PEOPLE WHO allow themselves to believe for a second that what they are seeing is supernatural. HE DOESN't TELL THEM THAT WHAT THEY ARE SEEING IS A TRICK. And yet he criticises Jim, who is doing the exact same thing...this is why he is a hypocrite.

He is a hypocrite because he wouldn't like it if I went to one of his streets performance and heckled him as he did MR. Callahan. ("Walk on this Pool!") He has the ability to explain that it's all an illusion because he has a TV show, and, when it airs, the performance is long over. Jim's performance WASN't over (he decides when he finishes it) and angel disrespected him. He is an embarrasement to illusionists everywhere (not because of his camera tricks) because of his attitude.

Rant over.
DJM
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He doesn't need to explain the people on the street, as most of them are stooges anyway.
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No...No...No...Criss Angel doesn't use Stooge or Actor!......

He just use Confederates!...Lots of them!
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This is all just publicity for CA, can anyone see that? Just like WWF like I mentioned before. Just look at what CA said about Copperfield while being interviewd. He loves to get people stirred up. A complete entertainer. Im not a big fan, don't get me wrong.
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CA claims that Psychics are defruading people at $20 a pop (At least that's what NBC/Universal charges at THEIR theme parks Smile He claims they lie to do so.
Yet, CA charges MORE than $20 to join his fan club...and HE LIES (No Camera Tricks) to get our youngsters to join.
Total Hypocrisy!

By the way...Jim has NEVER taken money from grieving relatives! Criss blatantly is lying. Slander!
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I cant believe this guy who has used more camera tricks than any magician ever known, and yet expects to be compared to the greats like Copperfield and even Blaine. Gimme a break.
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DC is an aquired taste or lack there of.

Blaine has treated us to such wonders as:

Pole standing

Living in a box

Standing in an igloo - which I have by good authority from an Inuit friend, while uncomfortable, is more bad manners than anything else.

Holding his breath while attempting an escape, which I believe was first done in the early 90's when I put my oldest child in his high chair for a time out.

This all probably created the vacuum for such a great and vacuous performer as CA!


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Angel Schmangel

Callahan Schmallahan

Not a fan of either. I think both come out looking silly in this thing.

Just my very humble opinion however.
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On 2007-11-16 19:06, DMG wrote:
Angel Schmangel

Callahan Schmallahan

Not a fan of either. I think both come out looking silly in this thing.

Just my very humble opinion however.


I'm new to the Café and don't know if anyone else has brought up the possibility that the Angel/Callahan confrontation was staged and that everyone involved is in on it. I've read a few threads dealing with the subjct matter and haven't seen this theory yet. Is it beyond the realm of possibility?
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I don't think that theory has ever been mentioned.

J
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Blaine, Angel, Geller----- they are all earning more than I am
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<I'm new to the Café and don't know if anyone else has brought up the possibility that the Angel/Callahan confrontation was staged and that everyone involved is in on it.>

I suggested this on the JREF website. The skeptics who live there were skeptical of my skepticism.
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(See theme of thread.)
I still don't get it.
David McCall
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On 2007-11-19 15:26, johne wrote:
I don't think that theory has ever been mentioned.

J


It's been mentioned on other forums, in fact, I personally always held that belief. But, I suppose it could be real, but at the very least, to me, it just comes across as "suspicious" even if the "fight" was completely "real" ... a few friends even pointed out some aspects that I hadn't considered.

But, I wasn't working behind the scenes, so I suppose those of us outside of the possibility of Callahan or Angel's family and producers will truly never really know.

Either way, it's getting them both lots of attention, so eh... Good for them I guess.

But then again, I'm the antogonistical bad boy of magic, folks. So, there you go.

And really, we're bringing up another "Criss angel is a moron and a jerk" posts? Eh, I'm not a fan of either, but then again, I don't talk about it unless someone brings him up in conversation... he lives his life as he chooses, I live mine; we'll probably never meet, so how does he affect me unless he gives up one of the methods I use to do magic?

I suppose it makes sense, but part of me says: If he's a loser, why do we all start up multiple posts about him?

At the same time, I realize he's a celebrity (of sorts) on a fairly popular show, so he's in the public eye often, which creates fodder; but still...

You know what? I think of my first ex girlfriend maybe once a month, if that. Yet I was seriously burned by her. This is something that could create trust issues if I let it (which I won't). So, I don't deal with her. I don't bring her up, until someone asks. I tell the truth, and that's it. I don't insult her all the time, I don't make her the subject of all my conversations... And THAT was a relationship that was personal... Not some complete stranger. I'm done with that chapter.

Just something to consider.
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Didn't you just bring her up without being asked? Smile

-Tim
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Just when I thought this had been discussed to death....
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On 2007-11-19 15:22, Mind Guerilla wrote:
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On 2007-11-16 19:06, DMG wrote:
Angel Schmangel

Callahan Schmallahan

Not a fan of either. I think both come out looking silly in this thing.

Just my very humble opinion however.


I'm new to the Café and don't know if anyone else has brought up the possibility that the Angel/Callahan confrontation was staged and that everyone involved is in on it. I've read a few threads dealing with the subjct matter and haven't seen this theory yet. Is it beyond the realm of possibility?

I find myself agreeing mostly with those who think it was at least partiallly staged. Either way, both are profitting wildly in the marketing department from this. Angel was already famous but, for the most part, Callahan was unheard of (at least by me and most laypeople). Now its a different story and Callahan will be able to add a zero or two to his asking price much like Kevin James' gain from America's Got Talent. Angel will go on being Angel and doing what most consider cheating (vid editing) but getting well paid for it cuz some idiot in as suit thinks its "edgy."

I have to give it to them - I wouldn't be watching Phen. if it weren't for this controversy.
David McCall
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On 2007-11-21 03:28, tincture wrote:
Didn't you just bring her up without being asked? Smile

-Tim


I knew someone was going to say that. So either I'm psychic, highly intuitive, a smart guy, or you think just like I do.

If it's the last option, you have my sympathy. Smile

Actually, I had THAT addressed, but I edited that part out because the way I wrote it didn't make much sense (even for me).

Anyway... back too the subject at hand. Point is, I don't OFTEN bring people up just to rag on them. There. Poifect.

Doesn't Criss end up getting enough recognition (that iis, if you can't stand the guy.)

I think art of the problem is the media brings it up. Tom Cruise and Britney Spears would basically go away if it weren't for all the paparazzi following them, etc, and all the celeb news magazines filling their pages with any pic they can find/fake/take.

But then there are overly geeked fanatics who "need" to know exactly what their personal lives are like, have to pretend to be just like them, etc. The mags and tv celebrity shows cater to that audience. A lot of people watch just because it's something on.

I don't know if the execs can catalog when someone in their demoographic changes the channel; it'd be cool. I don't want to hear about , say Britney Spears, so I will go so far as to change the channel the second I see her face. The execs need a way to see that, find a bunch of people who change the channel, what specific article is on, and, and Britney MIGHT just become yesterday's news.

Don''t like Criss? You have 49 other channels to watch.
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49? C'mon - its at least 300 now a days
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49 channels! Wow...way more than me! 300 channels? You got to be kidding me.

Of course I still have rabbit ears on my 19" black and white T.V.
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