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THEGUY26 (Will Swanson)
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Well, that does mean you end clean, right?
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If I am not mistaken, the card is transformed at the end?? If so and it can be signed, then the signature should also be able to change place???

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If you know any other torn and restored card, you would know what I mean. There is no transformation taking place if you are tearing the signed card, and restoring it.
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Wow...slow down, some people seem to be trying to guess the method from the teaser?!?!

I watched it, am fooled, blown away, and think they are the most visual restorations I have ever seen!!! Ususally the hands come together, or there is some hard pressing down, but with this...they just fuse!!!

People should just be amazed and not speculate a method before the release. Mathieu is a great guy and I am sure this will be nothing short of incredible...who cares if it isn't IMMEDIATELY examinable, that is why Chris teaches a handling where you can 'seem' to hand it out, and I am sure that it will look natural and have a reason. We shall see..i think the restorations alone mean that this is going to amaze people. Now all I want is a time machine to go forward a week!
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Yeah I loved the restorations. Only magicians will nitpick it to death. Blame it on curiosity. I think we should just enjoy it from a layman's perspective. I think people are looking for real magic. Smile
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Chris, am I one of the people trying to figure it out before release? This is the most visual restoration of any kind I have ever seen.
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On 2007-11-16 06:35, THEGUY26 wrote:
Chris, am I one of the people trying to figure it out before release? This is the most visual restoration of any kind I have ever seen.


I am not going to single out people for this, just think people should enjoy and be amazed, and not think to themselves or say 'Can it be examined now at this stage etc'...the best way is to look at it as it can't. The reason you do this is so that if it can, you will be even more impressed, but if it can't, you won't be deluded into thinking it can do something it can't. If it can be examined at stages, BIG bonus, but if it can't, you have to think 'Ok...it can't be examined at every stage...do I still want it'??? Because if I look at it like that, I think, 'Who cares?!?!' it is so visual, and at the end of performing the effect, I CAN hand it out. However, if it can be handed out at stages, I think, BONUS!!!
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That looked just like Holy Grail by Jordan Johnson. His video has vanished from YouTube but the thread still exists here at the Café. The 2 effects looked identical.

I guess I'm the only one thus far that thinks it looks more like you are repairing the card (and not doing such a good job because of the uneven borders and the light shining through the gaps) rather than magically restoring it.

Probably fun to know how to do...but no thanks.

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Holy crap heck if could even try to guess on that one. props to mr bich
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Although this looks nice Nothing looks better than Gared Crawford's Bits and Pieces.
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On 2007-11-16 06:50, Christopher Williams wrote:
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On 2007-11-16 06:35, THEGUY26 wrote:
Chris, am I one of the people trying to figure it out before release? This is the most visual restoration of any kind I have ever seen.


I am not going to single out people for this, just think people should enjoy and be amazed, and not think to themselves or say 'Can it be examined now at this stage etc'...the best way is to look at it as it can't. The reason you do this is so that if it can, you will be even more impressed, but if it can't, you won't be deluded into thinking it can do something it can't. If it can be examined at stages, BIG bonus, but if it can't, you have to think 'Ok...it can't be examined at every stage...do I still want it'??? Because if I look at it like that, I think, 'Who cares?!?!' it is so visual, and at the end of performing the effect, I CAN hand it out. However, if it can be handed out at stages, I think, BONUS!!!


Exactly Chris. Personally I just want to be able to hand this card out at the end of the routine because I think handing out a T&R card at the end really seals the deal for the spectator. Handing out the card at multiple points of a routine would break the rhythm and flow of the entire routine in my opinion. It would be like stopping in the middle of a coins across routine to let the spec look at the coins, just makes no sense. Method is irrelevant, I am sure this is a real work of art here by Mathieu that has been time and audience tested to the max.

The only bit that is confusing to me from a presentation standpoint is the color change as the ending. I am just going to wait and see the full construction of this routine, at which point I am sure it will all make sense.

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The uneven borders seems unappealing to me but that's my opinion others might disagree
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I still like the looks of TORN better. Best of all it has everyhting you could look for. (It is supposed to be signed AND handed out right after the last fusion takes place). I would still like to see some reviews when this comes out.
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The best part of a torn restored is when they tug at the seams when you hand it out. I like the look of this better perosnlly as there is so much cover going on in torn in compareson
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I think a few of you are missing the point of this. From what I understand this is a routine, NOT a single effect like just tearing up a card and putting it back together. A spec picks a card and you seek to find it. Unfortunatly you produce the wrong card. Then you tear up the mistake card and piece it back together. Which doesn't make sense until you turn it around and show that it has changed into their selection. The restoration itself is only the rise to the real climax which is the card changing to the selection.
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Ahhh! that is cool justin! thanks for clearing that up for me.
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Of course, anytime. We Ohioans need to stick together you know?
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Yeah, that might help if you fall asleep in Springwood.

1, 2, Freddy's coming for you...

TnR would really be the perfect T&R trick if all you need is a deck of card to perform it.
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IF (and big if) its like holy grail or bits and pieces (pretty sure its the same methods as I ve created the same trick independently years ago- Chris I spoke to you about it way back..dunoo if you remember) then its pretty good idea but alas the lining up of pieces and it being handled examined leaves something to be desired hence the routining to have it become another card.

But remember I said IF.

However if this is a new method and a new step forward..I'll be one of the first to buy this.
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I know the method of Holy Grail.
Version one let's you sign the card back and front.
After the restauration, that is angle proof, the card can be handed out immediately and kept as a souvenir. It can't get much cleaner then that.

Birchs TnR looks good but the teaser doesn't even show the full effect.
I think after the wrong card changes to the spectators card it can be handed out.
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