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Dean A
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Hi Mike

That's an interesting idea but does it not distract from the simplicity of the magic itself after the initial chuckle stage has subsided

I would have imagined that the least attention, drawn to the mat, the better.

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I don't think so, however, it may distract some people. I think it's more of a "one and done" gag as opposed to an ongoing source of interest or an attention hog. It certainly doesn't scream "Magician's close up pad here!".

I do the majority of my material in the hands, or I may need a dry surface on which to rest something here and there. I don't do a lot that requires the audience to focus intently upon the smily face Smile

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Interesting, I don't think of a close up mat as distancing me from my spectators. It is just a protection for the table top as I toss coins and cups around. It also serves to be my little stage to focus attention on the area to watch.

I tend to agree a blank mat is preferred, so as to make it as low key and non competing with my props. You can also add to the ambiance by using a Walnut edged, Hunter Green leather toppeed, cabriole legged close up pad to go along with the Sherwood Cups! Smile

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Is there a vid anywhere of Dean doing his Explosion? And is the coin production by Gertner on the Johnny Carson show (vid on Shane's site), a sort of Explosion-type of effect??? The guy must've produced as many as 12 or so coins, various sizes at the end of the routine. It was great. Smile
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Marion,

Dean performs explosion on his Coinmagic 2000 video, his Extreme Dean Vol. 1 DVD, and on the LVMI DVD. Hocus Pocus has the the Coinmagic 2000 performance in Real Media format HERE

The Gertner effect is different. Explosion uses no card covers, it is a bare handed assembly mixed with translocation type routine which climaxes with coins all over the mat.
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Thanks Dan...Smile
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He does it with Dollars on The LVMI doesn't he? Very pretty. I personally prefer to see the effect performed with Liberties but I have to admit the larger coins do add an extra element of Mystery, indeed impossibility, due to their size.
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I owned this effect in half dollar sized coins for a few years and it is a reputation maker, no doubt. I still have people ask me about it at my place of work. I did a free show at the school I work at for special needs kids--aka troubled kids thrown out of public school. They loved it because it was for them; they get so little positive attention as it is, and this made for a great moment for them.

It is by no means self-working, but well worth the effort to make it look right.

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Regarding your comments about the routine not being self working Paul. It reminds me of my theory that that subtle combination of gaffs and some nice sleight of hand really make for impossible magic. One element seems to cancel out the other when the theory is approaced with sensibility

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Can I ask, and I am by no means undermining or want to intimdate a fine magician such as Dean Dill, but $1000 is a lot to pay for a trick, and I live in the UK, so it would cost more to ship, is a trick worth that much money?
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Chuds, one guy has his libery set up for 800 dollars.

If you have the skills to routine an act around the thing, you are set, big time.

It is what it is. Nobody can tell you objectively whether or not what it is worth to you.
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I think both of you guys are right...It is what it is, and it's also a lot of money for a trick. I guess to some folks money is no object if it's something they want and can find some way to afford it. But that doesn't mean that that something might also be a bit pricey. If JT's principle is right, then he should say the same thing if it is was $5,000 but somehow I think the old proverbial "buck" would stop...Smile Usually when folks think something is ridiculous in relations to a price, that's where they will draw their own line...Ultimately Chud, you have to draw it...If you initially think it's a bit much, gut feeling, it usually is, at least for you...I mean it is a great piece of magic but in this case you and your wallet are the only things that matter here...Smile Ask around, sometimes folks are willing to part with their effects.
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On 2005-01-24 15:19, Mb217 wrote:
...Ask around, sometimes folks are willing to part with their effects.


* it occurs that folks are being awful respectful and forgetting that the community will also take what it wants when it wants.

What would it mean to you if someone simply posted the basic idea and mechanics?
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Jon,

I think MB17 was just suggesting that he may find a more economical purchase through the used market.

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Thanks KirkG...that's about it. Smile
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When people come up arguing about the price of a trick (and keep doing so) it always seems to be in the sense of "This is too much money for me but I want it anyways. How can I get it for less". Which leads to making something exclusive rather common. One of the major downsides of the internet IMHO.
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People should understand that things don't come cheap. if you want a good trick them expect to pay for it. if you cant afford it save up or don't buy it. people should stop whining about the price.
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Not completely true. The trick I perform that gets the best magical reaction I could wish is also the cheapest in my repertoire (I'll leave the guessing up to you guys;-). But in my view professional magic is not only presented in cheap, borrowed or everyday objects. So I mix cards with napkins with 500$ cups and turn of the century silver coins.
I advocate variation, both in presentation, effect and props.

I always shyed away from close-up pads. Now since I do Explosion I sell a lot more "formal close-up". In my perception the pad adds class.
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Dan - Yeah, that nickels to dimes is the ultimate!
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