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Matt_Aces
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Hi Fellow Magicians,

I was wondering if many people out there are using Pavel's Phenomenal Rope Trick? I have just ordered this, and should expect delivery soon. I was wondering if people found it hard to master and any advice on the performance of the trick, ie which music do you use if any etc.

I am hoping to be able to use this in a show in a couple of weeks, so I know my timeline is tight, but hopefully I will be able to get it down pat and looking really good.

What are your audience reactions like usually and which bit do they get blown away with the most?

Thanks for your help,
Matt
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Hi Matt
Welcome to the magic Café. It sure looks a lot like Pavel's junior walking knot to me, so be sure to keep your distance from the audience, and if they are too close use some music to cover the secret moves.
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Hi Al,

Thanks for the quick response and the welcome. Great to be here, wish I found this site years ago!

It does look like the walking knot, however it isn't tied to any chairs. It will be interesting to see what is possible to do with it.
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I suggest that you email Pavel and ask him. If it is the same you could also do Krazy Knot, and the Krazy Knot finale. With this rope that you purchased you can do many other tricks (I believe).

There are three versions of walking knot I have the 70" junior walking knot which I do around my neck and not on a chair.
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Well my Phenomenal Rope Trick arrived in the mail today and I've been practicing it for the last hour and a half. I really need some suggestions though, what do people use as far as music goes when they are performing this type of rope trick?

Any suggestions?

Thanks
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Ok, well I've decided I'm going to perform it to an arrangement of Sing Sing Sing by Benny Goodman. It's all instrumental and its a fun, well known song. I've cut it up a bit so that its the right length and I can nearly do it to the music every time.

Do people usually move around when they do rope tricks or just stand in the one spot? When I hear the music I want to dance around!
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Does anyone know where I can find a video of Pavel's knot? I want to see if its the one I think it is.
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If you order a DVD cataloge disc from Pavel http://www.pavelmagic.com there is a clip of him performing it. Otherwise, I haven't seen any videos on the web of someone performing the Phenomenal Rope Trick.

I will be performing this for the first time tomorrow night, so will let you know what the response is like.
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On 2007-11-27 23:03, Matt_Aces wrote:
Ok, well I've decided I'm going to perform it to an arrangement of Sing Sing Sing by Benny Goodman. Its all instrumental and its a fun, well known song. I've cut it up a bit so that its the right length and I can nearly do it to the music every time.

Do people usually move around when they do rope tricks or just stand in the one spot? When I hear the music I want to dance around!

Make sure you can work at that pace. You can dance, but can you chew gum and pat your head at the same time.
Us oldtimers use "syncopated clock" as music and just about make it to the end of the song.
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I just happened across Pavel's Super Walking Knot without directions. Could someone help me out?

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Pavel sells a DVD that demo's this trick. If you are interested in selling it please contact me.
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Syncopated Clock, just googled it. First time I've heard it. It sounds like a fun song, but for my audience and my style I think it wouldn't suit.

I can do the trick pretty much the same speed everytime I do it now and get it back to one long rope in 2 mins and 30 secs. If the song runs out while I'm performing I'll just run with it, but I should be ok.

Do you find that people will clap each time you untie the knot etc.?
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Well I performed this last night. The audience loved it!

What amazed me though, was that everyone was telling me that their favourite tricks that I did were the appearing straw and the vanishing coke bottle!!! So simple, yet so impressive!
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Matt, did you use Sing, Sing Sing??
As I said, when you get a bit older, you will do things a bit slower.
I chose the SugarPlumFaeries to do this rope effect for a few guys on the Café.

http://bigduck.tripod.com/nurope.wmv

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Ian
Great stuff, but how does he do that?
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Al,

He does it very well.

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Ian I did perform this to Sing Sing Sing.

The crowd loved it, and for part of it they were clapping along to the music, until I moved the knot and then separated two equal lengths, then they were screaming!

I found however that by the end of the trick it had worn off a bit. I think perhaps it went to long and too much was happening. I basically did the routine how Pavel did it on his demo and in his instruction notes.

I haven't seen any other performances of it though. I think I would like to shorten it a bit, perhaps remove the professor's nightmare part of it or something. Some people afterwards said to me "Oh you were using a gimmicked rope," but they didn't know how I was doing it still.
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On 2007-12-01 08:38, Al Angello wrote:
Ian
Great stuff, but how does he do that?


I just watched it and I'm stumped!
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And now, the rest of the story.
This was the first time I had done this, 5 minutes after I thought of it:
http://bigduck.tripod.com/nurope2.wmv
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Hey Al or someone,
Does this guy appear to be using a Pavel Walking Knot?
If so, how is he giving away the rope at the end?
Thanks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnjGPukPEIM
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