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Not sure if it was intentional but Angel placed anyone who might have got it right in a terrible double bind.
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It has hit youtube.com. The one million dollar challenge.

with the following quotes mostly taken from the news article.

"Criss Angel challenged Uri Geller $1,000,000.00 on the finale of NBC's nationally televised "Phenomonon" to tell Angel what was in a sealed envelope and then quickly cut Geller off when he appeared to intuitively begin zoning in on it's content. What was in the sealed envelope were the numbers 911. When Criss Angel asked Geller what was in the envelope Geller for some reason began rattling of dates that unknown to Geller were zoning in on the contents. Uri said Angel was born on the 19th, just 1 day prior to Geller's birthday. He then said that he had bent his 1st spoon when Angel was 1 (years old.) A nervous Angel, knowing what was in the envelope quickly cut him off, and diverted attention by quickly opening the envelope."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G096iqoGIjY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyB3EgwSBjE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFYrYuxAzw4


the youtube article then continues....

"It is remarkable that Geller knew the mystery was a date, whereas it could have been a drawing, poem, or other inscription."

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On 2007-11-26 16:15, magicusb wrote:

the youtube article then continues....

"It is remarkable that Geller knew the mystery was a date, whereas it could have been a drawing, poem, or other inscription."



yes that's amazing in itself. it could be anything else or even an empty envelope and yet Uri Geller zoned in excludind drawings and words

and the way mr.Angel cut him off was really bad: Uri was going to get too close.

then again with consultants like banachek behind Criss angel who can say he had not an earpiece and banachek or someone else whispered in angels ear 'cut him off !! he is getting too close !! you may looose !!!!"
entirely possible I say
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Mariagi - PM Paolo Smile - you read my mind!
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Spektor,

You guys are naughty.


Are you suggesting that Angel or Banachek would cheat?

NEVER!
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We will see Paolo, what the California Gaming Board has to say about Criss and NBC in the very near future.


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Jim,

I thought you knew me enough by now to get that MY post was tongue in cheek.

Your post, however, I hope was NOT (tongue in cheek).
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Have I missed something.Uri was just babbling on.How can anyone take any significance of what was said?

Had Uri just said "9/11 is whats written" Or Jim for that matter then we'd have a topic.

He didn't.We haven't.

Soem people are extremely gullible.
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Wow, first off, to win the million one had to mention what was in both envelopes. No if and but's just EXACTELY what was in BOTH. 119 would not count 191 would not count only 911 counts, no pictures of buildings, planes, smoke..no comments about hearing a scream, no mention of numbers, dates...no.. well you get the idea.

Also Uri never said it was a date in the envelope. You are assuming due to the fact he talked about how long he and Criss have been performing. And how close in birthdates (think astrology here) they are and as a result how their thinking is really not that far apart. At least that is what it sounded like to me.

As for the cutting off....first episode the producers were calling New York and having them remove segments videotaped so as to fit the show into the time slot. This was happening as it aired. The last episode was super tight too. That was on reason Jim Callahan's letter of what was in the envelope was removed. All acts were going over time alloted. Criss and Uri had both been told not to elaborate but to get to the point. Criss was doing as he was told. Show what was in the envelope. All Uri had to say was, I see the numbers nine, one, one...

Still one more envelope to go. Let's see how close others came.

As for what it is, I really don't know... I insisted Criss not tell me. Closest I have come is when Criss showed me the folded paper inside via a flashlight so as to make sure one could not really tell what was written.

Nice to see people enjoying the ride Criss set up.
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On 2007-11-26 18:51, Banachek wrote:

Nice to see people enjoying the ride Criss set up.


I hope they are EXPLOITING the ride rather than enjoying it, Steve.

At least they will gain something from it too ... Even if not THAT million! Smile
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I think the challenge to Geller will only go to further his legend rather than debunk him or any belief in the paranormal. Seems to be a running theme with Uri! Smile

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True words, Mentok, true words!

Long Live Uri Geller! Smile
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Dear Banachek,

It isn't what is - its about what it appears - you taught me that from PsychSubt 1&2 and the DVD series and all the other wonderful books I collected of your amazing work!

It doesn't matter what the rules were - a lot of people will rewrite history, see patterns where there are none, and just do things that go into the realm of Borges Smile...

The test or challenge wasn't under any scientific conditions, agreed or understood by all parties, and unclear who was being challenged at what times etc... or it was as clear as Uri's 911 Smile... and y'know the ol' prattle of needing time to zero in etc. but it is "valid" if one can set up the experiment properly...

In other words, the action did provide a great drama and allowed characters to battle and interact - personally, I didn't care about the contents - or if anyone got the answer or not - it was about the human interactions (or played interactions)... i.e. bring out the lions!

Yes indeed - I for one am indeed enjoying the ride CA set up!

It has provided amusement, passion and creativity all over the place!

Oh, and I never thought both you and CA would cheat. However, I would believe you are his mentor and help guide him out of trouble, which I think is a good thing! Deny it if you wiil, but IMHO a major reason Criss is a success is due to you - which is a good thing!

What might be cool for MindFreak is to do the second Envelope with genuine scientific and mentalistic experts setting the rules and then allowing people to attempt guessing it under controlled circumstances... then, even if someone goes frothing on the floor singing the Fibrianci number sequences (Arnon - feel free to correct my spelling) - then wakes up and says "911!" (or whatever it is) should be OK.

In the end, it can also be seen as it all completely staged to allow Criss and Uri to both be "right" with an ambiguous ending to the series...

It is all illusions and dreams anyway.

G'nite

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Hahahahaha love it banachek, wow, might as well just have criss talking, isn't that what criss is? A figure head for banacheks routines, and then **** like this happens when the figure head decides to speak for himself.
love the almost ambiguity, I could also be talking about our president. haha.


I LOOOVE your show Banachek, Mind Freak on A&E I just wished you chose someone else other than Angel, YOu should of chose me Rugged Demon.
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Thanks Corona! May you have a wonderful 1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21...etc. golden curve!
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Hey Banachek;

Be fair.... For Criss Angel to turn to a "mind reader" and ask what was in the envelope, and for Uri Geller to intuitivy rant on right away, out of the blue, the numbers 19 11, etc., in this field has to be considered amazing hits, like it or not. Don't forget 116 is 911 upside down and in this field would also be a fantistic hit!

I am sure if Criss turned to anyone in the world including you the chance of blurting out those numbers is probably a million to one or more. There could have been a billion or more other things to say. A word, a picture, a number, and in this case a date, which is where Geller was going. The fact that he did not blurt out 911 off the top, does in no way invalidate what happened.

I am sure if it was you or even Randi that did it you would be shocked and amazed.

Love your work by the way and am a big fan, but fair is fair. You may be prejudiced by your current job.

Think this over and be fair. What you see is what you got.

My best wishes to you and your family,

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Mr.banachek I agree with magicusb. be honest about the 'almost' hit by geller

And I think that joshua lozoff has a valid point

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......rum=62&1
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On 2007-11-26 19:59, Dr Spektor wrote:
then, even if someone goes frothing on the floor singing the Fibrianci number sequences (Arnon - feel free to correct my spelling) -
G'nite

Dr S


Doc, stand by for "Arnon/(Armageddon) ! You asked for it... Smile

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Fibonacci.


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Didn't anyone read the transcript I posted on page 1 of this discussion?

(sigh) I work and slave for you people and I get no thanks.

Mr. Geller did not appear to be trying to guess the contents of the envelope. He was simply wishing Criss Angel success. I think he deserves credit for being gracious and showing some class but not for accurately naming the contents of the envelope.
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