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Mikael Eriksson
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Penn & Teller performed an illusion. Then they exposed how it was done. Without any point in the end. I don't know much about them, but do they really use to do it this way?

Isn't it pointless to just expose for the sake of exposing? Because that's the impression they made.
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What illusion did they preform?
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It most likely was Blast Off as I think they perfromed that on the show if I remember right.

It's already been discussed to death on several post here on the Café over the years.

It really all boils down to "You like them or you don't", "you think they expose or you don't" and "You get what they are doing or you don't".

I happen to enjoy they're performances, other opinions will vary.
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Blast Off?
Mikael Eriksson
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This is the illusion they performed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYTmEVFL_NA

Payne, I think in this illusion there is nothing to "get". It's pure exposing just for the sake of exposing. I have seen them expose before, but it always had a twist or a point. Not this time.
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What are they exposing? That a person can slide around in a base that is 2+ feet thick? It's just more entertaining to watch Teller slide around under there.
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Not everyone knows ahead or understands how it's done. therefore it's exposing.
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I think its a funny routine. TRAPDOOR! The method IS better and funnier than the trick.
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Blast off!
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On 2007-11-28 08:10, Mikael Eriksson wrote:
Not everyone knows ahead or understands how it's done. therefore it's exposing.


Look at is as the false explanation phase in Silk to Egg but done on a much larger scale Smile
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On 2007-11-28 08:10, Mikael Eriksson wrote:
Not everyone knows ahead or understands how it's done. therefore it's exposing.


Look at is as the false explanation phase in Silk to Egg but done on a much larger scale Smile


In silk to egg the audience understands in the end that the trick was not done the way it was explained. That trick has a punch. Blast off has not. That's the big difference.
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Mikael,

Blast off was created by Penn & Teller for the purpose of this routine.
Never before has a magician done this trick. Nor has any routine been accomplished in this manner.

It was created for ENTERTAINMENT. PERIOD. Something far too many magicians forget about when designing their "acts".

However, P&T just love it when magicians see this and complain. It promotes their image as "The Bad Boys Of Magic", gives them free publicity, makes them more popular to the public, FREE PUBLICITY!!! Why, you were even kind enough to supply the link for those who may not have seen it these past 10 years or so.

Thank you for keeping their reputation in tact. We who LOVE P&T also LOVE those who bash them!

BLAST OFF!!! YA BABY!!! Wait until you see their Clear Cups & Balls!
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On 2007-11-28 23:58, Dan Paulus wrote:
Wait until you see their Clear Cups & Balls!


I have seen it. It had a punch: They talked so fast when they explained how it was done that nobody could understand anything anyway. It was good. Totally different from Blast off.

If they have invented Blast off themselves, of course it's a different thing.

Well maybe it's a good idea to expose. You have given me an idea. I'm thinking about building a website where people can buy the secrets of all the latest tricks. It will make me rich. You will love that website.

Thanks
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You wont get rich at all... You Tube has beat you to that idea.

I'm afraid you're missing the point all together. P&T really don't expose anything that will hurt magic. If anything they have given magic a much needed lift. By taking attention away from tuxedo wearing magi wannabes and mindless amateurs with business cards who have as much originality as the latest soft drink that still tastes like Pepsi.

Consider this; if Penn & Teller really were just better versions of the masked magicians, wouldn’t WAM have been on their arss long time ago? And would The Magic Castle really have awarded them Magicians Of The Year? No, they would not have. And there’s a reason, they get it!
They get Penn & Teller the act. They get Penn & Teller the showmen. They even get Penn & Teller the magicians.

If you'll study P&T’s writings, see their shows, and really think about the performances, you may come to understand what I'm talking about.
Blast Off (the original questioned illusion in your post) is the perfect example. Dozens of "magicians" have freaked out over this "exposure", yet I defy you to find a single other stage illusion that works on the same principle.

Now go make your little web site. I'm sure it will be as successful than your attempt at sarcasm.
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On 2007-11-28 08:10, Mikael Eriksson wrote:
In silk to egg the audience understands in the end that the trick was not done the way it was explained. That trick has a punch. Blast off has not. That's the big difference.


Mikael,

If one could perform the false explanation of silk to egg in an equally outlandish and entertaining fashion, I doubt there would be a need to tack on a sucker ending at all. Would one really want to anyway?

Steve
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On 2007-11-29 12:51, Dan Paulus wrote:
You wont get rich at all... You Tube has beat you to that idea.

I'm afraid you're missing the point all together. P&T really don't expose anything that will hurt magic. If anything they have given magic a much needed lift. By taking attention away from tuxedo wearing magi wannabes and mindless amateurs with business cards who have as much originality as the latest soft drink that still tastes like Pepsi.

Consider this; if Penn & Teller really were just better versions of the masked magicians, wouldn’t WAM have been on their arss long time ago? And would The Magic Castle really have awarded them Magicians Of The Year? No, they would not have. And there’s a reason, they get it!
They get Penn & Teller the act. They get Penn & Teller the showmen. They even get Penn & Teller the magicians.

If you'll study P&T’s writings, see their shows, and really think about the performances, you may come to understand what I'm talking about.
Blast Off (the original questioned illusion in your post) is the perfect example. Dozens of "magicians" have freaked out over this "exposure", yet I defy you to find a single other stage illusion that works on the same principle.

Now go make your little web site. I'm sure it will be as successful than your attempt at sarcasm.
Then study Penn & Teller and become a better magician.


I see on your number of posts that you are new to magic. You are forgiven.
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On 2007-11-29 14:18, Hoff Man wrote:

Mikael,

If one could perform the false explanation of silk to egg in an equally outlandish and entertaining fashion, I doubt there would be a need to tack on a sucker ending at all. Would one really want to anyway?

Steve


Be careful to expose that you don't like sucker tricks... Otherwise Dan Paulus will say you "don't get it" Smile
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Thanks for the heads up Mikael.
What am I supposed to get?

Steve
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On 2007-11-29 14:30, Hoff Man wrote:
Thanks for the heads up Mikael.
What am I supposed to get?

Steve


Not sure what "heads up" means in this situation.

Dan Paulus will say you "don't get" that sucker tricks are funny if performed correctly.
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[quote]On 2007-11-29 14:24, Mikael Eriksson wrote:
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I see on your number of posts that you are new to magic. You are forgiven.


Wow! What an asinine thing to say! Perhaps you should google my name or ask some more knowledgeable magicians here on the Café, or read Visions-Online, before you make such statements. You are really showing your ignorance.

Do you really consider the number of posts one makes on this or any other magic web site as to how "new to magic" that person must be? You may have the spare time to post hundreds of posts to a magic web site. I've been to busy booking shows.

This explains a lot about your grievance with P&T. Many magical hacks who can't make a living from entertaining get their ego fix by bashing those of us who do.

It's okay. "I forgive you."
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