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Gary Yin Elite user Sabah, Malaysia 449 Posts |
Hello Ray. Just don't like it to call a guy that all human has 10 each.
The spellbound routine....I'd stick to Rubinstein's. Bertini's too fast. |
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Fingers Inner circle Pennsylvania, USA 1330 Posts |
I know what you mean Gary, but I am almost there with Bertini's "Spellbound" routine and its killer "if done right".....
Where I go, so do my coins.....
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Zac Vee Veteran user Traveling the world with 370 Posts |
Bertini's work is wonderful. I been playing around with the four coin EG production. Its so good its like a dream.. been working on it since I got the CD ROM last May, the good thing about this is you can practice it while out and walking or sitting or waiting , just anywhere. even when you performing card magic. well maybe not , but everywhere else. Its getting there nicely, but I always remember Bertini saying he has been doing this for 10 years. so yeah that is why its magical.
Looking forward to more stuff from Bertini, Happy New Year, MaGically, SK
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Mb217 Inner circle 9531 Posts |
I've been playing with Giacomo's stuff too and it is quite interesting. I think "Revolutionary" is quite appropiate in describing his work. I haven't dropped this many coins since I began learning the basic sleights from Bobo's long ago... I feel like a toddler.
Anyway, it's a great dvd and Bertini is a wonderful coin magician, just excellent. He shows yet another wonderful road to be had when your imagination and creativity take you off the very crowded path of old & established ways of doing this stuff. Clearly there are brave new worlds out there. I'd say on these levels, that Mickey Silver and Bertini are definitely 2 of them IMHO. Quite brilliant work. -Mb
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Zhang Special user 515 Posts |
I'm also studying Bertini's CD, he is a master just like Dave Roth is; any serious coin worker should study Giacomo's, you won't see any adjustment or jerky moves from him when he is performing, that is what I like to see,also when he is holding now it is very much impossible to tell,and that is what makes magic tricks look like magic in my book,:).
I can't way for his next DVD. WZ. |
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Wes65 Inner circle I've said very little in 1219 Posts |
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On 2008-01-30 21:40, WU wrote: I still have plenty to work on from his first DVD!
Wes
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trycks. Regular user 146 Posts |
I'm also practicing mr bertini's move I can do the shift, load and display move now in moderate speed but not like bertini speed. I think you can do his move in normal speed and can pass in the eyes of spectator. the eg production and the steal seems impossible for me now lol. for now I'll concentrate in load, shift and display move
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Gustaf New user Stockholm, Sweden 78 Posts |
Christian Jakobsson who is a member here recently competed in the Swedish Championship of magic in Sweden with Bertinis material. When you first look at the techniques it seems impossible, but after a few tries you start to get it down. Continue guys, Bertinis stuff kicks *ss!
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Wes65 Inner circle I've said very little in 1219 Posts |
I read on another thread that Bertini does his moves with dollars as well as halves. The problem I have with dollars is getting the coin to the pinkie rest position without hand movement.....the two flips down and one over he teaches puts the coin in the floor rest position most of the time.
Does anyone have a solution? PM me or start a tread in the secret section if you would like. Right now I'm just dropping the coin as close as I can to PR (usally more towards the ring finger).
Wes
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Giacomo Regular user Florence (Italy) 112 Posts |
Ciao and thanks to everybody!
Wes, using a good method is necessary to learn well, and there is a thing I think is very important: I think that learning with the half dollar is better. Then when you do not have problems with the half dollar you can try with the dollar. Besides, you must train every day, (every day is important) until you did not reach the aim. Giacomo |
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Griff Loyal user Florida 285 Posts |
Hey Giacomo! Glad to see you are touring and lecturing. When are you coming to Florida? My question to you is when you are using dollar size coins do you use different methods or is it the same as using half dollar size coins?
Griff |
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
He's coming to the WMS in Las Vegas in April.
STAY TOONED... @ www.pete-biro.com
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Michael Rubinstein V.I.P. 4675 Posts |
I understand he will also be at FFFF, and will be doing some lectures in Canada. Aldo Colombini will be translating for him at WMS< and Vanni Bossi will be with them at the other stops. If you get a chance, go see him! And, in a couple of months, some of his NEW routines will be showcased on the NEW DVD's from the New York Coin Magic Seminar group!
S.E.M. (The Sun, the Moon, and the Earth) is a sun and moon routine unlike any other. Limited to 100 sets, here is the promo:
https://youtu.be/aFuAWCNEuOI?si=ZdDUNV8lUPWvtOcL $325 ppd USA (Shipping extra outside of USA). If interested, shoot me an email for ordering information at rubinsteindvm@aol.com |
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Joshua Barrett Inner circle Cincinnati, Ohio 3631 Posts |
Iv been playing with the copper/silver that was in last months genii. any tips you can pm me in the little finger load? to me it reads in a way the hands are parrell when the move is done, but this always seems to flash. it seems to work if the recieveing hand is slightly behind the other.
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Giacomo Regular user Florence (Italy) 112 Posts |
Griff, I use the same methods, but you need to learn with the half dollar, then you can think of learning with the dollar size. Now I do not know when I will go in Florida.
Joshua, to learn this routine you should learn well the little-finger-load. In this routine I do a different motion for little-finger-load: A circular motion. So the hands are paralell when the move is done, and the coin not flash. Ciao Mike, I hope to see soon NEW DVD's from the New York Coin Magic Seminar group! Ciao to everybody! Giacomo |
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Joshua Barrett Inner circle Cincinnati, Ohio 3631 Posts |
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On 2008-04-12 22:14, Giacomo wrote: Giacomo, that makes perfect sense. that's how I got it not to flash from experimenting. thank you very much. I hope to see more of your material soon |
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RachelMilano New user United States 83 Posts |
Hi all. I have been working on Giacomo's techniques for about 10 days now and I am improving daily it seems. When I first tried the pinky rest I thought..."this is impossible." But I've stayed with it and it's coming along much quicker than I thought it would.
I've noticed several posters mention they have resigned themselves to using the ring finger instead. The concept of using the pinky is that it allows you to expose as much of your hand as possible. And I can't imagine a lay person believing a person can actually balance a large coin on their little finger with such ease. It's just a fantastic technique and well worth learning. So keep at it and you won't be disappointed. Thanks. Rachel.
I'd much rather regret something I've done than something I was too afraid to do. Have a great day. Rachel.
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Michael Rubinstein V.I.P. 4675 Posts |
On the New York Coin Magic Seminar DVD's (set of three, each about 2.5 hours long!!!), due out in about a month, there are three NEW effects from Giacomo, and an in depth discussion of his pinky technique. Watch the Café and our website http://www.newyorkcoinmagic.net, for further details!!!
S.E.M. (The Sun, the Moon, and the Earth) is a sun and moon routine unlike any other. Limited to 100 sets, here is the promo:
https://youtu.be/aFuAWCNEuOI?si=ZdDUNV8lUPWvtOcL $325 ppd USA (Shipping extra outside of USA). If interested, shoot me an email for ordering information at rubinsteindvm@aol.com |
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RachelMilano New user United States 83 Posts |
Thanks Michael. I bookmarked the website and noticed you were on there. Apparently you are a professional magician huh? That's two that have sent me private notes in 3 days...lol. Love this place. Rachel.
I'd much rather regret something I've done than something I was too afraid to do. Have a great day. Rachel.
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Giacomo Regular user Florence (Italy) 112 Posts |
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On 2008-06-02 00:28, RachelMilano wrote: Thanks Rachel!! You have understood perfectly my concept. I never had problems with this technique, and no one has ever understood how I did. I know it is not easy, but is not difficult, it is important to learn in this order: 1) is necessary to learn my technique "little fingertip rest" . With the practice of this technique you can easily learn most of my techniques. 2) now you do not have to exert to learn how to palm the coin in "classic-palm" , but learn to run the "pinky-subtlety" Now we must transfer the coin from the "little fingertip rest" position to "classic-palm" position, but you can do so later in another part of the routine and calmly. It is not important to do it immediately with my system. This you can learn later, and calmly. ciao to everybody! Giacomo |
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