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I do so hate that the Georgia cotton fields are empty. Wellington rope in Georgia was my supplier of cotton rope and they (as you said) just sold out and no longer make the cotton. That, of course affected my surplus guy in Georgia as well who can't even get scrap cotton rope for me.
That Georgia field will probably wind up a WalMart superstore selling cotton rope from China. Oh well.
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I went looking for that cheap rope in Wooster, Ohio, but came up short. Ian might be happy to know I passed up on the "really cheap rope". I have my standards, sub as they might be, they are, at least, standards.

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Ian is out of rope, so I will give everyone my source of 1/4" cotton core American rope. It is my friend in Conneticut Neal Prete at ntprete@sbcglobal.net I got an email from him tonight and he told me that he has roughly 4,000 feet of it in his garage, and remember that I make nothing on any transaction you arrange with Neal.
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Is that Tom Prete's son?
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You got me there Ian. Neal is in his 40's. He also has a wide selection of colored rope too, and the only reason why I listed his email address is because you were out of the good stuff, but I would guess from reading your previous posts that he might not be able to get any more.
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On 2007-12-18 15:13, Josh Riel wrote:
I buy my magicians rope at Lowes.

I think it's made in China.



It is difficult these days to buy anything in the U.S. that isn't made in China!
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Careful! Better check the rope for lead.
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I always taste it first, just to make sure there is no lead. I'm really worried about that lead exposure.
Magic is doing improbable things with odd items that, under normal circumstances, would be unnessecary and quite often undesirable.
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I checked with my friend Neal Prete and he told me that he not only has 4,000 feet of rope, but his source has plenty, so if you want the good old fashion magic shop 1/4" rope, and you are sick of that 7/32" ka ka rope that magic shops today sell send Neal and email to find out his price. ntprete@sbcglobal.net and I believe his rope is low lead too Josh.
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PS- I make no money on any rope you buy from Neal.
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Daryl mentions in his lectures that one of the best ropes come from Japan.
There are various thickness of super soft white ropes:
http://www2.hawaii.edu/%7Ekyschun/balloon/supply.html
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This has been an interesting thread to read. I bought some magicians rope through a supplier a while back, 1/4" natural white cotton with "string" core for easy decoring. It works really well as far as I can tell. IT is on a spool like the pictures at the Magicians site above http://www.rope.ws although I can't remember exactly where I ordered it from.

Anyway, my question is pertaining to what Bob Sanders said, " I do still use the scissors from poultry plants to cut the rope!" How much of a difference is there in the scissors you choose? Are good fabric shears from a sewing store good or do you recommend something like the scissors EMTs use?

Posted: Jan 18, 2008 3:32pm
I have my scissors now. A lady at a material store told me to always look for "bent" scissors, meaning they two blades bend across each other and make a better cut than scissors with straight blades or blads that are flexible.
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I love that some of you think that soft rope is called "magicians rope"...and can only be bought at a marked up price from a magic shop.

Hilarious.
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Where do you buy your cotton core rope?
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Home depot, lowes, fabric store.
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That rope is probably not white, most likely does not have a cotton core and it definitely is too stiff to use on stage. But it is cheap. If you do a lot of different rope tricks you absolutely need versatile rope, and 7/32" plastic core clothes line would make me look like an amateur.
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You can do some basic magic with a clothes line, sash cord, or rope from a hardware store. But, you would be hard pressed to do some of the beautiful rope effects out there.
I recently bought a set of quadropelets (as research), it uses a white foam core rope and is entirely too stiff to do that effect correctly. There is a fold that must be made to a rope in your pocket, when that rope comes out, the accordian pleated folds leave the rope bent until you stroke it a few times, a definite "tell".
Just cause it looks like rope and its cheap, it doesn't mean you should use it for magic.
Once you do your magic with the best magic rope there is, you will never go back to Walmart. Magic rope should be unstarched, soft 100% cotton rope. Some of the synthetics will work. The reason you go to a magic shop and buy overpriced rope, is that the magic shop is providing you with a scarce commodity, and not a substitute.
I used 1/4" soft cotton US made rope for over 30 years, and I have the last of it on a large spool. I am now using Euro rope, and it is expensive even for a dealer to stock. But, the results I can get with that, more than pay for the difference.
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I don't have clothesline....i do not know its content...may not be cotton, but it is soft, pliable, and does the trick. (No pun intended.)

Cheaper and as nice if not nicer than rope I have seen in magic stores I have been to.

Aside from that...There are several rope "vendors" on the internet.
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I carry 12 rope tricks in my bag. For those 12 tricks I use 4 different kinds of rope. Several of those tricks require the cotton core removed to be done properly.

I can not afford to be guessing about the content of some hardware store discount rope in order to save a few pennies, and wind up looking foolish. Just how many rope tricks do you do?
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I have realized that I need to upgrade on rope. I have "magicians" rope I got from a magic store, which I decored and it works pretty well for most tricks out of Tarbell, but the silky bright white rope used by Tabary on his DVD looks much more presentable and seems to "flow" much better than the natural white ropes I am using for practice. I am not sure of the type of thread his ropes are made of, but they are obviously cored by the way they lay in his hands.
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On 2008-01-27 23:27, Habu wrote:
I have realized that I need to upgrade on rope. I have "magicians" rope I got from a magic store, which I decored and it works pretty well for most tricks out of Tarbell, but the silky bright white rope used by Tabary on his DVD looks much more presentable and seems to "flow" much better than the natural white ropes I am using for practice. I am not sure of the type of thread his ropes are made of, but they are obviously cored by the way they lay in his hands.

Those Tabary ropes are Euro-rope called other things by other dealers. Camarand magic in Canada seems to have the market in the states. They are distributed thru Murphy magic, show-biz services and a few others. Retailers are Hank lee, & Empire magic, but any dealer can get it thru the distributors. I will carry it soon.
The advantage is the volume of the rope looks large but since it is cored (hollow) it is extremely pliable. Having used most types of rope in 35 years of performing, I find it the most versatile and visible.
If cutting the rope and destroying the rope is part of the act, the cotton rope over cotton casing is the most economical and professional looking. see pics at http://www.rope.ws
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