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THEGUY26 (Will Swanson)
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Couldn't you have the coin signed if you do it the way it's done in The Closer by Morgan Strebler?
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Any updates on this?
Nick Wait
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I figure I betterkick off this post by mentioning that I am hugely impressed by everything Ben Earl has done so far. However I see little new in this effect, nothing one couldn't do without a coin switch and a read of building blocks. However I will presume there is more to it than just that, so I too will ask. Any News?
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Just noticed the video has been taken down.
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On 2007-12-23 09:41, Hawk-Eye wrote:
I think the "necessity" to have the coin signed is a little stupid. No layperson has ever put a marker to a coin and signed it before...that's just utterly weird to them. The signing aspect is something that we magicians have created in our search for better, "more amazing" conditions in our magic.

If presented properly, I'm sure the signed factor won't matter one bit. Personally, I'm really looking forward to this. Looks great.

Nick


At the risk of being torched, I must disagree. Yes, no layperson has put a marker to a coin before, but in all likelihood, they've never stood right next to a person who was bending a coin before, either. I do about 6 different bends, which all cancel each other out, in terms of MO, and all are effective, but by far the strongest reaction is with my QB2. There is indeed an extra "convincer" when the coin comes out of their pocket, is signed BEFORE THEY EVEN HAND YOU THE COIN, then bent.
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On 2007-12-23 09:41, Hawk-Eye wrote:
I think the "necessity" to have the coin signed is a little stupid. No layperson has ever put a marker to a coin and signed it before...that's just utterly weird to them. The signing aspect is something that we magicians have created in our search for better, "more amazing" conditions in our magic.




also how many laymen have written their name on a playing card before, yet do not most of us have a sharpie at the ready for many card routines?
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On 2008-02-10 17:16, matt.magicman wrote:
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On 2007-12-23 09:41, Hawk-Eye wrote:
I think the "necessity" to have the coin signed is a little stupid. No layperson has ever put a marker to a coin and signed it before...that's just utterly weird to them. The signing aspect is something that we magicians have created in our search for better, "more amazing" conditions in our magic.




also how many laymen have written their name on a playing card before, yet do not most of us have a sharpie at the ready for many card routines?



Excellent point. Marking something for identification makes perfect sense given the nature of what we do. It's no more odd than having someone write down a piece of information, only to tear it up or put it in a wallet.
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Any new info on this?
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The single most obvious method behind this rotuine is a switch, signing it blows this out of the water. So often after a coin is signed and bent, people will remark on the signature: "Are you sure that's your coin?" "Yeah I signed it"
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The emphasis of this effect in my opinion is the psychology. They feel it bending, coupled with the other weird psychological illusions seemingly present in the video. Im assuming its going to have a strong use of suggestion and is why I am looking forward to it.

The notion of a switch can be removed if you structure it well (see derren browns handling of cig thru coin) and I would assume the dvd will also go into this.
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On 2008-02-11 11:19, DSmagic wrote:
Any new info on this?


I'd like to repeat the question. Right now Coinvexed is getting a lot of ink and I'm sure it's great but I'm still curious as to what Mr Nardi and Mr. Earl have come up with. Two very creative people.
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This was taken down from youtube-so I can't of get the idea that tyhe idea may have been put on the shelf for a while-perhaps so it does not have to comepete against coinvexed.
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Still no new information? I would expect that what you might learn from this dvd could actually in fact be used with coinvexed.
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On 2008-03-07 12:20, DSmagic wrote:
Still no new information? I would expect that what you might learn from this dvd could actually in fact be used with coinvexed.


....and other gimmicks.
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Certainly, maybe I should have rephrased my post as "coinvexed and any other coin bend out there"

But then you could go down the road of saying you'd be able to apply certain things that may be taught to anything you want.
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While this is true, it is unlikely that the majority of maicians are going to willing to pay £x extra immediately after purchasing coinvexed, it makes more sense financially to put them out later- so the prodcut does not get hiddde from the surrounding hype generated by coinvexed. If they do release it later on they can then add it on as a bonus to the routine.
Who knows-i'm only guessing.
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Skin by Ben Earl does not use Coinvexed or the Quantum Bender or other tools out there though many of the ideas and thoughts in Skin can be applied to those devices/routines. My understanding is that Ben is somewhat reluctant to part with this (and has been) so I am not sure if it will come out. I hope it does as Ben has great ideas as we have seen in his Past Midnight card DVDs. We'll see...

Tim Trono
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Hi Guys,

Just to let you know Skin has been filmed and will be released in the near future. We are currently in talks with a television company about the possible inclusion of Skin in a forth coming magic special.

I will keep you all updated.

Best Regards

Peter
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That is great news Peter!!!! I think this will be very popular.

Tim
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You will love it Tim, Ben has really spilled the beans on everything with this one!

Peter
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