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On 2008-01-20 16:53, nathanpain wrote:
I'l stab someone in the eye to get a copy of any new Derren Brown stuff...leagally or otherwise...I'd prefer to buy actual product...

Nathan


Oh... sure!

Stab someone in the eye to get it- and you might get 5 years for aggravated assault. If you've got a good lawyer and it's a first offense, maybe less.

Pirate it and you're looking at a getting the feds involved, 5 years, AND a maximum $250,000 fine...

The choice is clear.
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Wait...I have to do a quick magic trick, "The Appearing Stick" My secret method involves Gaddy's arse Smile

Nathan
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So how was the show?
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Rockbrunnen - If your talking about the system it's not on till Friday.

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Ah, I didn't notice that they had changed the schedule.
Thank you, Mescalito.
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I think it is HILARIOUS that he is claiming (and going to 'prove') that he has develped a system for the horses - the holy grail of gamblers, and Derren has it! HAHA!
SO many people after this are going to sincerely believe that he has developed or discovered a real system for the horses, something that any intelligent person would realise is impossible unless you have a total and complete understanding of chaos theory and all it's possible algorithms, and a brain that can calculate pi to 1000 decimal places.

I think that's quite clever/amusing. Although my opinion may change after the 100th person asks me if I know 'Derren's system for the horses'...
(any other uk performers here get fed up of people asking about the greyhound tickets???!!)
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Ah the grey hound racing....i was badgered for a while with that, I just made up the most outrageous method I could think of - I nearly said that they built a replica stadium and hired 100s of actors to fill it out...

I wonder if this is "based on" the old berglas maths principle for winning at poker?
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Wait a second. As the horses thing is described, it sounds very much like a scam that has been known forever. I've seen it referred to in countless places, including books on "Brain Teasers", so I don't think the following consists in giving away any secrets. -- Suppose 10 horses are running. You send a prediction that horse #1 will win to each of 10 different people. You do the same re horse #2, and the same for horse # 3, etc., for each horse. You've sent predictions to 100 people. -- 10 people will have gotten winning predictions. Now you do the same thing with these "winners", with respect to the next race. After a while someone will have received an amazing string of winning predictions. That person will assume that only (s)has been sent any predictions. -- This is as old as the hills. And very clever. It can, though, be used unethically. If Brown used this, he merely *accurately* described only *part* of what happened. As many have pointed out on threads about misleading ads, this happens in marketing magic all the time. This is not to suggest that Brown's using it in a performance is also unethical.

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Your right Kriskraze, I used to record songs of the radio too, do you want to call F.A.C.T or shall I hand myself in.


Recording from the radio or television for *personal* use has been legal for some time (although this wasn't always true). When you distribute copies of these recordings then it ceases to be for personal use.
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For time shifted viewing only... (or have things changed recently?)
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Finally got a chance to see this. Wow.

Mr. Brown, above all else, makes great TV.
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Derren continues to push the boundaries of what people can expect from his programs. I applaud him for daring to try new and different approaches to what he does. He continues to surprise and delight viewers.

- entity
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If somebody outside the UK is still interested, the show can be found in Youtube.
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Just saw the Youtube version.
Count me in as those that came away .. puzzled.
I don't get the point of the show. Other than the one mentalism effect he did with the 4 critics, it wasn't like anything he has done before.
Don't give up, don't EVER give up.

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On 2008-02-12 18:04, Miikka wrote:
If somebody outside the UK is still interested, the show can be found in Youtube.


Or the whole show can be found here

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......start=30
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On 2008-02-12 20:50, Nash wrote:
Just saw the Youtube version.
Count me in as those that came away .. puzzled.
I don't get the point of the show. Other than the one mentalism effect he did with the 4 critics, it wasn't like anything he has done before.


I think that was the point.

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Have you even seen this show? This system would have costed millions of pounds, its funny. Another scenario of Derren pulling the wool over the publics eyes.
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On 2008-02-12 20:50, Nash wrote:
Just saw the Youtube version.
Count me in as those that came away .. puzzled.
I don't get the point of the show. Other than the one mentalism effect he did with the 4 critics, it wasn't like anything he has done before.


As Entity said, I think this was the idea.
I think Derren is contracted to come up with a new special each year as well as his TV series, whilst also touring with his stage show.

The vast amount of material he is churning out with his team, I think we are lucky
that as a performer he is prepared to keep pushing these boundries. Could you imagine if he just kept doing the same material each year?

Take a look at the IMDB

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1494925/

that's a lot of material.

The System dealt with belief systems, Like the Messiah and the Seance.


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Is anyone else having problems with the Google Video? I guess I have to watch it on youtube.

TFM
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Try it with a different browser. My Mozilla doesn't accept google video, but my internet explorer does.
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