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Burt Yaroch
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I thought it might be fun for everyone to share their favorite original line for a story telling deck theme.
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I do Sam the Bellhop and I have included a line where the gambler asks Sam if he has any kids and the answer, as I turn over the 3 1/2 of Clubs is, "Three with one on the way."

-Marty
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That is a brilliant idea, Marty! Very funny! There's nothing wrong with a little gag here and there to get the audience laughing. And for the record, 3 1/2 is a card. It's rectangular, probably made of cardboard...

The point is, you found a way to personalize your version of the routine and that shows a creative mind is at work here. More magicians could benefit from that.

Great idea!
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Doc Eason has been using a blank face card for many years in his Sam the Bellhop routine...

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I'm sorry, Burt. It's been awhile performing this effect, with end result forgeting the story.

I will watch it again soon and post the story.

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Marty: Brilliant!

Thirston: By narrowing your view of what constitutes "real" you are limiting your imagination. Magic is about imagination. Expand your horizons; there's a whole world of magic waiting for you out there.

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One of the interesting things about people that are really into card magic is that they seem to not like using cards that make an effect look like it is a trick deck. Cards like the three and a half of clubs for example...

When an audience sees that car the three and a half of clubs in a deck - any deck they might think that it is a trick deck of cards... Because it doesn't exist in a standard 52 deck of cards...

An interesting theory in magic...

But as an entertainer I feel that that and other ideas are great ideas. Because the point of entertaining with magic is to be entertaining. If a magician is doing a show - who cares if it is a trick deck - or if he or she is using the tree and a half of clubs...

As long as the audience laughs and has a good time...

Great idea...
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"Story" tricks work best on me as a spectator when I see them done with a borrowed deck. Actually, most tricks work best on me if you're using my deck. I'll willingly suspend my disbelief and be truly amazed at your skill and storytelling ability if I know you haven't been sitting at home sorting your cards and trying to remember "7... what does the 7 stand for?" for hours before you show me a story trick. Otherwise: what's the point? Where's the skill?
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CamelotFX, are you saying that you perform Sam the Bellhop with a borrowed, unsorted deck? This I've gotta see!

And I'm starting to have trouble understanding you, Thirston.
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Me? Perform Sam? And with a borrowed deck? Not without ten minutes in the bathroom first! What I was saying was that I would like to see YOU do it! That would amaze me indeed.

Let me know when you're ready! Smile
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I understand what the confusion is I think. Thirston thinks if you use a 3 and 1/2 card, the spectators might think the deck is S** U* or something. But remember in Sam The Bellhop you are showing them cards that you are going to name anyways, so it shouldnt REALLY matter, they see you are *shuffling them regardless.

Hope that doesn't add to the confusion...
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On 2005-01-03 09:46, Thirston wrote:
A blank card is not a real card.

Then neither is a business card but I'll keep handing them out because they work Smile
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Reis O'Brien
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On 2005-01-03 14:25, CamelotFX wrote:
Me? Perform Sam? And with a borrowed deck? Not without ten minutes in the bathroom first! What I was saying was that I would like to see YOU do it! That would amaze me indeed.

Let me know when you're ready! Smile


When did I claim that I could do that?
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On 2005-01-03 16:17, Reis O'Brien wrote:
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When did I claim that I could do that?


You didn't. I stated that I am most impressed by tricks that use a borrowed deck or my deck. You then asked if I did Sam with a borrowed deck? I replied no, but I'd be impressed to see YOU do it! And I really would be too. Honest!

You may assume from this that I am not impressed by Sam the Bellhop either, because I've never seen it done with a borrowed deck. But I would be if I did. And if anybody could do it, Firedice could. Me? I've never done Sam. If I could do it with your deck (and no time in the bathroom) then I would.

On second thought, nah. I wouldn't.
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Thirston makes an interesting point. Any clearly gaff card creates the air that this is just a set up. Marty's line is a fun one, but at what expense to the feeling of magic? Then again, to what degree does "Sam" lend itself to magic rather than just plain unadulterated entertainment?

Cheers,

Tom
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Why not get back to the original post, assuming anyone still remembers what it's about?

Sam the Bellhop -- or Joe the Bartender, or whatever -- is a peculiar routine. The big problem with the way it is usually done is that it doesn't so much end as stop!

I do a number of different versions -- an actor, four cowboys, Joe the bartender -- and in every case I finish with a "hard" close; the trick just doesn't peter out with someone winning a game of cards (so what?)
Thomas Wayne
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Bill Malone, the contemporary name most associated with "Sam the Bellhop", makes no pretense whatsoever of attempting to create a story that fits random ordered cards dealt from a shuffled deck. He often leads into a sentence about the next card (or cards) before the reveal, making the concept of "spontaneity" impossible.

At one or more points in his presentation he plays with a spectator, openly negating the spectator's cut several times, all for a laugh.

The real magic, in the audience's mind, comes from:

1) All those impossibly real looking shuffles and cuts, but the cards still come in an order that fit's Malone's storyline, and
2) That a storyline exists using every single card in the deck - once and only once - and the story flows and has some entertainment value (beginning, middle and end)

That's it, and the idea of ad-libbing from a random order is never even considered; at least not the way Bill Malone does it.

So, with entertainment being the goal, and random order being irrelevant, the whole question of whether a specially printed card is "real" or not is actually kind of silly. I personally think the "3 kids and one on the way" gag is clever, original and fits the routine perfectly.

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Peter Marucci
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BTW, anyone interested in my original! version, involving a Shakespearean actor, complete with an ending (rather than a stopping) simply check out the Linking Ring magazine for my monthly Showtime column of November, 2002, or e-mail me and I'll gladly send it to you free.
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Thanks for letting us know about an alternative script for the trick Peter. The more options we have in performing a piece, the more likely we can find one that suits us.
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Well, you have to have a first post sometime..

I've recently learnt the wonderful Sam the Bellhop. The patter on the Malone DVD is fantastic, but some of it doesn't work for an English audience. Therefore, instead of using Sam's address (1329 West 8th Street - we don't have them streets in these parts) I say 'No, I'm 39, but I can trace my family back 8 centuries to 1293.."

Tim
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