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Stick Man
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Most of my magic revolves around cards but I was wondering if I could use flash paper somehow to add to the effects.

When you buy it, does it come with instructions at all? As you can tell, I've never used it before.
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I'd been thinking of asking for advice about this, and I found this thread, so I thought I'd bump it to the top.

Yes, any ideas? The stuff I have needs an open flame to ignite (it won't light easily off a cigarette, for example).

I was thinking of using a blank card and the paper to simulate the printing on the card disappearing in a flash. Maybe a double lift, a small piece attached to the top card (blank) which is then passed quickly over a candle—poof!
I suppose it could also be used to transform a card into the spectator's chosen one.

I have a feeling stuff like this has already been done a million times, but anyway...

Maybe we should post this in the Pick a Card forum.
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Hi there.

FP does not come with instructions, as far as I know. But the possibilities with FP are endless. Jay Sankey has a marketed effect using FP with a deck of cards and a coin. It is called "In A Flash". It is great! Another idea would be to write or draw something on a piece of FP and set it ablaze. Then the drawing or writing is found on the back of the card the spectator has chosen and buried in the middle of the deck.

A playing card could be covered with a piece of FP and you would get a Flashy colour change.

What else?... Well what you can do also depends on whether you want to use the FP alone or with a Gimmick to set it off. Rick Haslett has a lot of these, and I think that with his Flash It (or The Flash, I forgot exactly which is the one. Better ask Rick.) a Topit and a deck of cards you could easily make a vanish of a deck in a flash.

Well sit down guys and think. The ideas are endless. FP is only a utility item.

Ivan

PS. What about FP and Back Palming, huh?? "Card production from fire"
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I like the idea of passing a card over a candle and it changes into their card.

If you lit the FP with the match, is the match likely to go out or would it stay lit?
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Most likely the match would stay lit. I don't know what changes have been recently done the FP, but I have never seen any that would not ignite with just a cigarette or even a just- blown-out match.

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It's best to use a lighter. I do a torn and restored card using flash paper where I pretend to wrap the pieces in tissue, light it, and then throw a deck at the flash paper. Another good idea is to do a riffle glimpse force and have the force card written in ash on a wall, etc., and light flash paper, throw it at the wall and hey presto. (Just an idea I had but haven't yet tried. Simple, but perfect for laymen.)
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Try Jay Sankey's "In a flash." It's a great fire effect using cards. I highly recommend this.
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Just a note that I have never seen addressed here. There are two distinct types of flash paper. One of them uses a bond type paper and comes in sheets the size of typing paper and was originally used by bookies and other gambling forms to get rid of number and policy slips. It has bled over into the "magic" field. It burns far more slowly than the "tissue paper" type that comes in small pads.

The heavier type does need a flame to start, while the pad paper will ignite from as little as a recently blown out match. When I was in that business, I was the one who got the trimmings that come along with the bond type. Heh-heh... Good in a dove pan or similar but not with the sudden flash that come with the pads.
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Yes that is true. There are two types of flash paper. A friend of mine knows someone else who produces the heavier type. They burn more slowly and create a different kind of flame too.

Ivan
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Ivan
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"In a Flash," by Jay Sankey. I understand that it is a trick deck, though. Smile
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As far as I know, there are two types:
-Flashpaper that burns super-fast with no ash, which is nitrocellulose (paper treated with acids). There could be various grades, depending on thickness and treatment time.

-And a much slower type, made of paper impregnated with saltpetre (an oxidizer, the paper is the fuel).

'In a Flash' is actually a coin/card/flash routine, where a signed coin, wrapped in flashpaper and placed on top of a deck, 'burns' down through the deck to stop on top of the preselected and signed card.
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I have a method for the ash effect.

Use a table (make sure it's washable) Smile and have the forced card printed there with ash.

Cover this with a plate or mat.

Proceed to force the card and get them to write on the FP their card on the other side so you can't see it.

Light it and pull the mat from under the FP, there's a flash and their card in ash!

Works very well.

Thanks,
Jezza
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Have a card back palmed. Hold a square of FP in the same hand. As it goes up in a flash, reveal your back palmed card. Very visual, can also be done with business cards etc...
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Yes, "In a Flash" is a special deck but the effect and the reactions are worth it. I have landed quite a few gigs by using it as my demo. Smile
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I'm quite new to the forum and wanted to reply even though this has been sitting for a while. I use flash paper for a card location. After the card has been selected and lost in the deck, I place a little piece of flash paper on top of the deck and ignite. I point out that it did not leave a scorch because the scorch has penetrated the deck to locate the lost card. I then fan through the deck until I get to a card with a scorched back. It is their freely selected card. There are several sources for this effect although I have found the easiest method for me is to use a double backed card. Email me at sandysartworks@surferie.net if interesed in and need more detail re: method.
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My favorite card trick with FP is the VooDoo Boy. It always gets a great reaction.
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Shenaniganz,
I've never heard of VooDoo Boy. Can you describe the effect?
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I sometimes use flashpaper on the coin used in the Paul Harris card effect 'Flappin' Jacks'
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Agree that "In a Flash" is a great trick.
But if you go for some ungaffed alternatives, I would suggest doing the Ambitious card routine, with the Flash paper and the Snap Change finish, looks like real magic guys!! Smile

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I use flashpaper in card warp. Prior to sliding the card thru to change, place a piece of flashpaper in the card and ignite. You can comment that this is a fuel required to initiate the next action... or... to send the card to the next dimention. Provides a great visual and purpose for the patter. Cheers........
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