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A few people have been asking me to upload a clip of the OHMAK (One Handed Mid Air Knot ) flourish. They either have the manuscript , Hunter Knot Revisited and can't get the timing right, or are just interested to see it in action.

So, its up, short and sweet, around 35 seconds worth, but will give you a good idea how it goes. Note, this does not show you the entire routine, just the flourish that can be inserted into other routines. You'll find the YouTube clip at the bottom of the information page, it has not been indexed in the YouTube search engine at this moment.

http://www.achieving.com.au/hunter.htm
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Nice demo
It is a variation of the Will Rogers snap knot.
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Thanks for posting this.
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Robert

Let us know how you get on with the toss!
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That is so freaking misleading. The knot is not knotting in the air. In the video the rope is let go, he catches it in the right position for a one handed knot, and then does the standard, stock, one handed knot.
An in-the-air knot would be: to have no knot, throw the rope in the air, and when it lands, there is a not. That is not what the video shows. Knotting to it.
Sorry, eeeeehhhhhh (big buzzing sound)!!
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Now, these are quick attempts at something I don't normally do.
The first one is two hands, but the knot happens while the rope is in movement:

http://usmagic.biz/intheairknot.mov

This one is the One handed attempt ala the "hunter" demo?

http://usmagic.biz/omak.mov

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I feel the difference is that the rope leaves the hand before the knot is made, and lands with a knotted rope. Under the constraints of trying to keep this close and in view of the video camera, there was limited movement. In a performance, I would do the move and pickup while moving my hand in an arch so as not to tip off the method.
Ideally, I would like to have the rope draped over my hand and in an upward movement, have the action work.
Man, I know I am gonna hang myself with these knots.
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Ian is right again. The only way to do a knot that appears in mid air is perfectly demonstrated by lovely Laurie, and to make us macho men feel even more inadaquite she then does it with her other hand. Lauries has chosen a dufficult method, a stiff rope, this Canadian cow girl from Ottawa is quite a guy, and I would be honored to buy her a beer.
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Here is a better link if you had trouble with my movie file.
http://usmagic.biz/omak.html

Two attempts on the clip.
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There is a different version where you hole the ends one in each hand, twist the middle in front of you, and throw one end through the middle. I learned that one in boy scouts 50 years ago.
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Two handed
http://usmagic.biz/intheairknot.html

I like the Hunter knot video clip, its close to an in the air, but not quite.
His first two take were the best, the repeats were backslides.
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Ian that's it
It is hard to get one up on you. Thank Laurie is better than both of us.
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Her coin rolls are even better than her rope.
Oh by the way, to avoid plageurism, my clip was called "omak" one-handed mid air knot, could have been omk, or "bomk" bad one-handed mid-air knot.
I have entirely too much time on my hands.
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I think you guys are getting too hung up (small rope joke) on the name, rather than looking at the whole move itself. I got this when it first came out a year or so ago and think its very nice and pleased to see it now "live". Yes, you're right, its a standard one handed knot in the mechanics of how the rope gets knotted, but its certainly not standard how it gets to that point. The display, the toss, the end display. very sharp and visual . I wonder how a spectator would remember it?
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Yes you are right Ian and I always joke with each other, but if you look at "the Will Rogers snap knot" at this forum you will see Laurie do the most amazing knot trick there is, and the best place to learn this knot is from My friend Dennis Loomis. Although Dennis's technique is different than Lauries they are both absolutely amazing.
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Ian, I actually agree with you
the knot move is probably mis-named
it's just what I started calling it and it stuck.
(not sure if I'll go back and re-edit the manuscript
and video now though :0 )

Al, not sure why the Snap knot
is any closer to a mid air knot
as in that, the rope is not in the air
by itself at any time, where in mine it is.

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Yeah, I didn't quite see the mid-air aspect of the snap as in "letting the rope go", but the knot action does happen on its own after the snap, as the rope centrifugally(?) rotates into a knot.
Your video knot got more impressive after viewing it several more times. As I had mentioned, the very first knot made was as much in the air as it could be, and it seemed to wane away from it by the last take. I would like to see the complete Hunter knot effect done on a youtube format, perhaps by one of your purchasers.
Years ago, rope effects were very inside and mostly confined to lecture material. Lately the revision and DVD merchandise has brought it out of the closet.
I still see George Sands influence in most effects.
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Timothy
The differance between the two knots is the snap knot makes a knot appear by snaping the rope with one hand. Yours is done be throwing the end of the rope through a loop with two hands, and making a knot appear in the middle. One is done with one hand, and the other is done with two hands. Your knot is no better than the one Ian did for a joke.
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Al, I don't quite understand the intention of this post
any more than the one you just deleted?

I'm quite aware of a snap knot and the differences between
the two. I can perform both of them 19 times out of 20.

If you fail to see the usefulness of this little known
flourish, that can be performed with one or two hands,
then I'm sorry I ever brought it to your attention.
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Timothy
Yesterday was a stressful day for me, I love your knot, and I wish you the best.
Al
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No problems Al, I knew you weren't your cheery self

Timothy

BTW, it's not "my knot" , I make no claims for originality
I'm just trying to let people know about it
as it only been mentioned briefly in print once before.
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