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Is Nyarlathotep for John Edwards or against?
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Nye is for him of course, as Edward promotes darkness..... bahhahahaaaa

Now then, EdawardS I thought also meant the plural of people like Edward.... he being now an archetype versus just a mortal - what he was granted by Nye for becoming his agent of chaos on Earth.

Nyarlathotep is the Patron Saint of Charlatans... he poses as one himself... but as he is the Ultimate Charlatan - he actually has real cosmic powers - aye, that is the rub.
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I've had a few sessions from local guys who do this sort of thing. I think most of them are sincere. They are not trying to scam people. They may be self deluded, but they are sincere.
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The guy on TV talking to the dead: against
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This is a fascinating thread. Those arguing "for" John Edward seem to be using the one rebuttal:

* Let people believe what they want to believe because there's a lot worse stuff going on out there in Churches etc.

Okay. Other than the "nyah nyah nyah what about YOU!" school of debate, is there any other reason that a man going on TV and pretending to talk to the dead relatives of his audience while professing it's real is okay?

We had a discussion about it on my blog a few days with the Terri Irwin/John Edward show coming up, and there's a really good opinion expressed here news by a journalist from our major national newspaper. Worth a look.
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I know believers who wouldn't be able to get out of bed and face the day if they didn't think that things like this were real. Large portions of the human race seem to need John Edwards types to give life meaning. I doubt any skeptic out there has the power to change this basic facet of human nature.
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Sheesh, I came to this thread thinking I was going to be able to read up on the Iowa Caucus.
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On 2008-01-03 02:24, Tim Ellis wrote:
This is a fascinating thread. Those arguing "for" John Edward seem to be using the one rebuttal:

* Let people believe what they want to believe because there's a lot worse stuff going on out there in Churches etc.

Okay. Other than the "nyah nyah nyah what about YOU!" school of debate, is there any other reason that a man going on TV and pretending to talk to the dead relatives of his audience while professing it's real is okay?

We had a discussion about it on my blog a few days with the Terri Irwin/John Edward show coming up, and there's a really good opinion expressed here news by a journalist from our major national newspaper. Worth a look.


Pretend or not, it is impossible to talk with the dead therefore lies the scam. It really is ridiculous to believe such rubbish.
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There is no problem talking to the dead - the trick is getting them to talk back
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And you quoted from the music man earlier, Dr, then Don Theo said Iowa...are you plumbing strange Canadian psephologies from afar?

Hey, we're against JE except Isnot is not.

And it's really cold down here, too.

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Its cold in Shoggoth Town... really cold
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It would be hoped he were real he could do better than first initials and poor cold reading.

Not to mention asking so many questions!
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I'm getting a message that there's someone out there with the initials M or E who is about to post in this topic......
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Tim, you are amazing. How did you know I would post?
Oh wait, I see you wrote it on the back of the playing card... it says, "I knew you would post on this forum, Joe Marotta".

(I still love that effect, Tim!)
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On 2008-01-03 17:41, Harry H wrote:
It would be hoped he were real he could do better than first initials and poor cold reading.

Not to mention asking so many questions!


It's interesting that there are a high number of skeptics that are convinced of pre-show work.

That's admitting to being impressed with his 'hits'.
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On 2008-01-03 15:53, Steven Conner wrote:
Pretend or not, it is impossible to talk with the dead therefore lies the scam. It really is ridiculous to believe such rubbish.


I don't necessarily approve of JE, but do you have any proof of this?
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Does John Edward have any proof that he DOES talk with the dead?

I obviously can because, as you can see, I predicted that Joe Marotta would be the next person to post!

I said "M" and Marotta starts with M.

What more proof do you need?
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And just in case people say "Oh, but you said M or E"... what letter precedes the M in Joe Marotta???

E

EXACTLY!
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