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mindpunisher
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On 2007-12-23 22:56, nucinud wrote:
John Edward, belongs in jail with Sylvia Brown. They give people false hope and take their money. It is one thing to be a psychic entertainer, but to lead people on with out and out lies, come on, this should be a crime. Case after case Sylvia Brown has been proven wrong yet she still gets away with her crap. What cracks me up, is that when an article appeared in Long Island Newsday about John Edward, they took a survey about psychics. Over 63% of the people believe he is real. Houdini wanted to believe that you could contact the dead. He was disappointed. We should tell the truth about these scam artists.


Going by that logic so do many religeous leaders and clergy.


Psychic turtle age 27. That explains it all. The age of knowing everything.

If you want to contact the dead try Paul Daniels he died years ago.
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For anyone who remembers her, how come no one's ever heard back from Doris Stokes?
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Psychic turtle age 27. That explains it all. The age of knowing everything.


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said by a bitter old man?

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On 2007-12-24 06:44, abraxus wrote:
For anyone who remembers her, how come no one's ever heard back from Doris Stokes?


I did hear from her, and I informed her family that I had a message for them, but they refused to come to my show and wear something distinctive Smile

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On 2007-12-24 09:32, mescalitoeyes wrote:


Psychic turtle age 27. That explains it all. The age of knowing everything.


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said by a bitter old man?

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Not bitter old man. Someone who has been 27 and comes across many of that age.

Its a fact many people in their early twenties think they know everything.
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Not bitter old man. Someone who has been 27 and comes across many of that age.

Its a fact many people in their early twenties think they know everything.


True, and for some, age is not a factor. Smile

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:xmas:
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"I am not young enough to know everything"

- Oscar Wilde


As for the PRS that Icy posted up - blech... the BPRD would wipe them out in 3 seconds... Liz would pyroburst most of their heads and HB would crush their skulls...
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Wow. There is a lot of bitterness here.

However, so as not to offend anyone in particular: The above statement was not meant to insult, belittle or berate. It was not directed at any one person be they male or female.

I intend no disrespect by listing male before female. All are equal. Everybody's "ok". Any views expressed in my posts are that of my own opinion. I am not responsible for sensitive and politically correct (read: dummies Smile ) persons coming down with ill feelings and blaming my or their ancestors for any misgivings.

The smile placed after "dummies" in previous paragraph is there to alleviate any said "sting" that may have been a burden to those feeling such personalized content being directed at them. It is NOT directed at anyone in particular or any group of people.

My posts reflect personal opionion and therefore hold no legal weight.

Now, please everyone notice the "caution: hot" notice on your coffee cups, pay the new tax coming up in San Fransisco(?) on non-diet drinks because it makes you fat, and don't forget to spell it "womyn" not woman.

Now for the REAL disclaimer. That was all tongue-in-cheek.

Oh yea, Happy Hol- I mean Merry Christmas. Smile
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It's sad when people actually think one can "communicate" with the dead. Shows just how desperate some people become after losing someone and how they are unable to move on and put the past behind them.

Memories and sadness of losing a loved one is understandable and expected. When one thinks someone can come along and tell them what their loss might be saying to them, they are being sold pure snake oil. It's too bad people get away with peddling false hope while playing on the emotions of others.

Mark.
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I think the 'disclaimer' that was flashed across the screen at the end of his show provides us with plenty of clues:

“The Producer has relied heavily on the contributions of John Edward and other third parties in the creation of this program, which has been produced for entertainment purposes only.

“The materials and opinions presented in this program by John Edward and other third parties, including statements, predictions, documents, photos and video footage, come solely from their respective third party sources, and are not the views, opinions and responsibility of the Producer and are not meant or intended to be a form of advice, instruction, suggestion, counsel or factual statement in any way whatsoever.”
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Not bitter old man. Someone who has been 27 and comes across many of that age.

Its a fact many people in their early twenties think they know everything.


True, and for some, age is not a factor. Smile

Happy Holidays
Peace and good will

:xmas:


I don't profess to know everything just whats I need. I say live and let live. I certain;y don't believe that I know enough to think I should protect others from their beliefs.
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I don't profess to know everything just whats I need. I say live and let live. I certain;y don't believe that I know enough to think I should protect others from their beliefs.


Well said!!!

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Not bitter old man. Someone who has been 27 and comes across many of that age.

Its a fact many people in their early twenties think they know everything.


True, and for some, age is not a factor. Smile

Happy Holidays
Peace and good will

:xmas:


I don't profess to know everything just whats I need. I say live and let live. I certain;y don't believe that I know enough to think I should protect others from their beliefs.


And neither do most 27 year olds. But you seem comfortable enough to make an assumption that we all do.

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On 2007-12-24 13:55, Joe Marotta wrote:
I think the 'disclaimer' that was flashed across the screen at the end of his show provides us with plenty of clues:

“The Producer has relied heavily on the contributions of John Edward and other third parties in the creation of this program, which has been produced for entertainment purposes only.

“The materials and opinions presented in this program by John Edward and other third parties, including statements, predictions, documents, photos and video footage, come solely from their respective third party sources, and are not the views, opinions and responsibility of the Producer and are not meant or intended to be a form of advice, instruction, suggestion, counsel or factual statement in any way whatsoever.”


Not sure what kind of clues you are picking up other than a producer (more likely their legal dept.) covering their behinds should someone sue the show - as opposed to John Edward. It's a pretty generic disclaimer that would probably be on many talk shows.

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On 2007-12-24 12:05, mrunge wrote:
It's sad when people actually think one can "communicate" with the dead.

And if someone told you that they find it sad that people actually think they can't communicate with dead loved ones, who would be right?

You? Because you know some magic tricks?

I think where critics are missing the point is that it all comes down to BELIEF! Not facts. Not knowledge. But opinions.

I've seen enough of John Edward to think he actually believes in what he is doing. So does his followers. For those who subscribe to 'Live and Let Live' philisophy; Isn't that enough?
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I've never seen the man live, just on TV, but many of my friends in the Spiritulaist Churches have seen him and hold him in the highest respect.

That means a lot to me.

Tony
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P.T Barnum was right!
And I am way past 27, I am 61.
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I love the quote on the vid R.S put up. I paraphrase here:

It's easy to talk to the dead...the hard part is getting them to talk back. Smile
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To quote Norman Beck in January's M.U.M.
"To say that you have four cards when you really have five works well for me, but to lie about real-world facts bothers me."
"We are what we pretend to be" Kurt Vonnegut, jr.



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I have a high respect for John Edward and many other mediums. I don't buy these broad generalizations about every one of them "defrauding a vulnerable public" or anything of the sort. Most readers I have encountered have deep compassion for their subjects and provide what I consider to be a valuable & therapeutic service.

Jonathan
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