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FCpreacher
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Which one and why?
Michele
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Just use half dollar is OK.
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Palming coins have two advantages over real half dollars. They are thinner and lighter. So you can get more to the clip and have less weight to deal with. And the second advantage is that they have better milling on the edges for surer handling.

Some could argue that they are simply more consistant in color too. Who cares?

Another characteristic I have learned the hard way is that palming coins are not as likely to stick together as real halves when they get wet. I use old Abbotts, Tannen, and Hank Lee palming coins. I've had them forever. Strange, but I have never owned a Norm Nielson nor a Harry Anderson coin. However, they are fine folks.

Good palming coins are the right size, color, and ring like crazy in a bucket or glass. On stage I think they are more heard than seen anyway. For very large productions, I use some advertising tokens a text book publisher gave me in the 1980s. They are a little too small for my clips and not milled. But it is a pile of coins.


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I prefer Harry's. Or Magic City's, same thing. They sound more genuine if dropped into a bucket. They slide more smoothly over one another if your engaging in sleights that require you to palm stacks and produce them one at a time.

The only benefit to using Norm's, that I can tell, is the fact that they are thinner, so if you're loading a coin ladder, you can fit more of them in the space provided.
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FC,

The Neilsen coins are mush thinner then a dime. Anderson so called thin coin is pretty thick, like the old silver dollars of yesteryear.

I use Neilsen for my stage work. If you are not going to do a professional show. Just use real money, it is cheaper and at close ranger to spectators they will see it is real money. If you are going to use a coin bucket, they only make them to fit half dollars so neither is the answer to your question.

You did not give enough information in your question for a helpfull answer.

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Actually there is a pronounced difference in thickness between Silver Dollars and Harry Anderson Palming/Manipulation coins. Not to nitpik here but thought I'd clarify that fine point.
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I use both the Nielson and silver dollars and like them both. Nielson work well for Multiple Downs Palm and the silver dollars work well for Miser's Dream.
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I must confess incredulity at a portion of your post Darkwing.

>>Nielson work well for Multiple Downs Palm<<

Now, it's been quite awhile since I've handled Norm Nielsen's coins, but as I recall the milling wasn't pronounced enough to facillitate single coin productions from Downs Palm. Also, the raised engraving, or relief, increases talking.

How many Neilsen coins do you produce from Downs Palm? Do you produce them individually, or fan them?

Thanks for your reply in advance.
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Eric,

I Downs Palm 8 coins, produce them individually. Once I find the milling fine for this move. They do "talk" a little, but not loud enough for anyone to notice. The most recent coin purchase had uneven edge when I stacked them. So I used a jeweler file and removed the edge.

Norm Neilsen says he uses his own coins, but had them 14K gold plated for his act.

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Nice work Bill! Thanks for your reply.
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I've had a dozen Norm Nielson coins for years. I perform a simple misers dream using them and a wine cooler bucket. They are very thin so I can easily stack them all in one hand, but they still make a good noise when dropped in the bucket. They work great for me.
I've never tried the Harry Anderson coins.

Not much help as usual,
Phil
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Last year I spent several hours with Cellini over a kitchen table with several other magicians. He uses homemade palming coins. He has an effect with five coins in a handkerchief that simply cannot be done without smooth faced palming coins because of the talking.
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Just a note:

Neilsen coins originally were sleightly larger in diameter then a Silver dollar. His newer ones are the same size as a Silver dollar.

Arhtur Buckley books give a nice transition method for Card fan to coin fan method.

I don't know if it is still available, but Ron McMillian's Book Coin Manipulation printed by Unique Magic in England is priceless book for any coin act. It discribes his act in minute detail for coin productions.

Bill
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