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OK - this will be a REAL project!

Brother KOTAH has sent me some wonderful things already!

OK - seriously, here is what I propose - this will be a hard copy book +/- objects to go with it, done as a special collaboration. I will endevour to figure out a way to also make the pages difficult to photocopy.... the only way to get this book is to somehow contribute to it (which will be determined....).... and there will be only one run of the books.

Everyone who gets one can donate whatever money they want to the Mystery Mentschen project above basic costs of the book - that is what I called the force that collected money from FLYTRAP ($ went to the International Childrens Wish Foundation)... and this money I suggest would be donated to:

http://www.womankind.org.uk/what-we-do.html

Although if anyone has a better idea for a charity, post it here. The reason also to have a middle name like MM is that my wife pointed out Charities of this sort might not really want to take money from a book that features Jack the Ripper! Besides, anyone who gets involved will know where I live Smile....

I also suggest a working term for the group of us that get involved... The Tenebrae.

I will post some more thoughts soon!

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From the Jack overload page:

Working title:

YOURS TRULY, JACK THE RIPPER

Possible sections:

Background on Jack

Why is Jack so popular?

Contextual / Presentation etc. consdierations for doing Ripper routines

Comedy and Jack?

A section of actual routines, effects from contributers

A list of effects, routines etc. commercial with links

A list of media resources for inspiration

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OK - Fearload Fraughton and Marqus have offered some material... Alton and Andre have offered proofreading and other helpful things... KOTAH is gleefully involved...

Do we have any twisted artists out there, by the way?

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COMMERCIAL JACK
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It would be great if we can list all commercial effects, etc. that we know of here - even if no one gets a book - at least this will be good info. To add, just "quote" then remove quotes and add your additions so the list will grow over time...?

Also, people can toss in links if they want.

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FROM HELL - Lebanon Circle

BOOK OF ASCENSION RIPPER EDITION - Lebanon Circle

HOMICIDE SERIES UK - Outlaw Effects

DARK MUSUEM RIPPER EDITION / EYE OF THE RIPPER - Doug Higley

BAND OF THE HAND - Docc Hilford

DEAR BOSS - (Keith Lack?)

BONE, RAG, HANK OF HAIR - From CANTRIP CODEX, Doc Sheil

(? Jack the ripper routines) - Peter Marducci (I don't have this (GASP) but I hear he had some sort of booklet
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(? Jack the ripper routines) - Peter Marducci (I don't have this (GASP) but I hear he had some sort of booklet


Peter Marucci (not Marducci) has a routine called Dear Boss on BizarreMagick.com. I think I remember hearing about a booklet (or at least more routines) also but cannot recall 100%.

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I definitely want in on this. . . I sort of feel a little like my mental block (turns out it was probably just a bout of kidney stones, I feel much better now) had a bit to do with it. Honestly, though, it's the glut of Jack related stuff (this is not a bad thing) that's come around lately that has struck us all, I think.

What kind of deadline are you thinking? I have some emails to which I am over=due in responding to this evening but blessedly have tomorrow evening alone with my keyboard to write up some of the things I'm working on. One of things I'm liking the best is my script for Doug's Dark Museum, but I'd want to clean it up quite a bit before sharing.

I'm thinking we'd want to run routines by the effect creators, especially for commercial items, before sharing them in print though. Just a thought. I know Doug likes to see what folks are doing with his stuff, not that he'd have a problem with it. He is, after all, as my daughter would say, "one righteous dude". As is Dan at Lebanon Circle.

An addition for your commercial list: Alexandre and Anabelle have several Jack effects in "The Black School" book (which by the way I quite enjoy).

Just my thoughts at the moment. I'm sure I'll think of some more later.

Mark

PS I've been pouring over Brother Kotah's Ripper notes for weeks now. They really make you think. Great stuff.
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Hi Mark,

No real deadline as yet - since this should be a collaborative process and there really is no rush... its not like this will be designed for a quick buck so let us do this well and right! If it takes a year, so it takes a year. This will be a labour of dark love.

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On 2008-01-03 16:26, AltonThrash wrote:

Peter Marucci (not Marducci) has a routine called Dear Boss on BizarreMagick.com. I think I remember hearing about a booklet (or at least more routines) also but cannot recall 100%.

Alton


See Alton? You are great at catching errors Smile
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On 2008-01-03 16:33, Mark Raven wrote:

I'm thinking we'd want to run routines by the effect creators, especially for commercial items, before sharing them in print though. Just a thought. I know Doug likes to see what folks are doing with his stuff, not that he'd have a problem with it. He is, after all, as my daughter would say, "one righteous dude". As is Dan at Lebanon Circle.

An addition for your commercial list: Alexandre and Anabelle have several Jack effects in "The Black School" book (which by the way I quite enjoy).

Just my thoughts at the moment. I'm sure I'll think of some more later.

Mark

PS I've been pouring over Brother Kotah's Ripper notes for weeks now. They really make you think. Great stuff.


Yes, we would want to contact the creators (I can contact Dan (LC) if needed) before hand to see if they are ok with contributing. Which brings me to:

Is the Curator's routine written up in Hauntiques? Four Pence is a very nice routine indeed. I know he contributed it to Magic magazine Oct. 2007. Maybe we could include it as a reference if he wouldn't want to contribute the routine.

As far as Black School.....i need to get me a copy. I keep hearing good things about it.

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On 2008-01-03 16:26, AltonThrash wrote:

Peter Marucci (not Marducci) has a routine called Dear Boss on BizarreMagick.com. I think I remember hearing about a booklet (or at least more routines) also but cannot recall 100%.

Alton


See Alton? You are great at catching errors Smile


I am a stickler for spelling! Just ask my boss! Smile

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OK - seriously, here is what I propose - this will be a hard copy book +/- objects to go with it, done as a special collaboration. I will endevour to figure out a way to also make the pages difficult to photocopy.... the only way to get this book is to somehow contribute to it (which will be determined....).... and there will be only one run of the books.

Dr S


Bruce,
What kind of objects are you proposing to go with the book?

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Well, depending on the material, maybe we can approach Higley, Dan and Roth and see what can be done! (And SIMON)
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I'd like to offer my professional Art Direction/Graphic Design talents. I've created and produced major advertising campaigns for household name advertisers in print and broadcast. I've also been at the startup for promoting national distribution of a novel. Let me know if you want my help.
Meanwhile, keep me posted.
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Thanks KW- let us see how things shape up - I believe art is essential to books on the bizarre!
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Artwork is essential, especially cover work and thematic graphics throughout the body of book. But since I create everything for publishing in QuarkXpress, I also format the signatures, design the page layouts and illustrations too. From soup to nuts. Also, just prior to prepress submission, I can convert the entire project into PDFs and have them available for an online ebook, download ready, Actual printing hard copy examples can wait for another day.
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Is the Curator's routine written up in Hauntiques? Four Pence is a very nice routine indeed. I know he contributed it to Magic magazine Oct. 2007. Maybe we could include it as a reference if he wouldn't want to contribute the routine.


Yes, "Four Pence" is described in "Hauntiques" and it has been given to MAGIC magazine to go with Joshua Jay's article. As the publisher of "Hauntiques", I don't have a problem in allowing the routine to be re-published in a new book, provided credits are given, but Christian should have the final word on his material.

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This sounds like a great project.......I hope to contribute something.


I shall write up a rountine that I have been working on and send it to you.
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In addition to my Shuddershadow routine, I have a few more to add. First, I have to type them up.

Wkitwizard, glad to see you jump in the mix.

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On 2008-01-04 07:33, MPMagic wrote:
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Is the Curator's routine written up in Hauntiques? Four Pence is a very nice routine indeed. I know he contributed it to Magic magazine Oct. 2007. Maybe we could include it as a reference if he wouldn't want to contribute the routine.


Yes, "Four Pence" is described in "Hauntiques" and it has been given to MAGIC magazine to go with Joshua Jay's article. As the publisher of "Hauntiques", I don't have a problem in allowing the routine to be re-published in a new book, provided credits are given, but Christian should have the final word on his material.

All the best,


Thanks MP. Since I don't have "Hauntiques" yet (I know, I know I am slipping) I wasn't sure. I agree that Christian should have the final word on the release. Thank you for your blessing. See now I know where to look for the routine. I gotta get "Hauntiques".

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Maybe we could include it as a reference if he wouldn't want to contribute the routine.


Oh and just to claify this statement I made, I was meaning to include the source(s) for "Four Pence" only not the actual routine if the routine wasn't contributed. After I reread my post I see it may be unclear what I was referring to.

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Well, depending on the material, maybe we can approach Higley, Dan and Roth and see what can be done! (And SIMON)


Yep can't forget our other "pusher" Simon! We may need to strong arm him for his Whitechappel Seance Smile . We just need to wait until he ships our stuff Smile .

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Heheh - true!

Harlequin just sent me anice little Ripper routine for consideration of inclusion - and is nice and short and packs a punch! (Or a cut???)...


Indeed, I can see the book needing to look eerie, dark, designed with some subtle codes in the margins (as KOTAH has provided a nice cypher code based on the scrawls on a wall from one of the murder scenes)... so Wktwizard, I think we'll all benefit greatly from your talents!

I ust woke up and came up with a routine that is a table top recreation of the murder using Call of Cthulhu Gaslight lead figures Smile - it is a homage to Alan Moore's From Hell, where the essence of the routine is showing how Jack the Ripper performs a dark magic ritual through the sacrifice of the women to usher in evil within the 20th century.... and it can all be contained in a small eerie box Smile....

Now to write it up (groan)....!

Fun fun fun!

Anyone here want to write up any presentation / context essays? I'll do it if no one else will in the end.... but I will also add that I am happy to help add suggestions and subtleties to people wanting to submit material? Maybe KOTAH can too, if he feels inclined? Although I am happy to push things along, as this is the beginning, best to get many viewpoints in the mix before the final commitment to bring are insane dreams into hideous reality!
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