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Furniture
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Hi guys,

What is the quickest way you can use to cull 4 cards, lets say the 4 aces, to the top of the deck?

Please mention the name of the method where can be learned.

Thanks
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Hofzinzer Cull, Card College (among others)
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If you're not specific about the 4 of a kind you can combine the probability cull (I learned it in Allan Ackerman's "Las Vegas Kardma") with a spread cull to control 4 of a kind pretty quickly.
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Kostya Kimlat's "roadrunner cull" is the fastest by far. Get his dvd, best source for the cull IMO
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It is my eternal belief that any sleight must be selected in accordance with the context of the trick.

Spread Cull is not difficult to do very fast, but it is very difficult to justify spreading all cards.

If you are going to 'Spectator Cut the Aces', Culling the Aces just before doing the trick is ridiculous.

Maybe it is a good idea to do a trick in which spreading all cards seems natural. After that trick I would do the trick with culled Aces.

Maybe I will post some examples of such concept in my thread "Today's Finding".

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Kato-san is right - if you master a certain cull, the speed comes automatically. Especially if you only want to cull up to four cards only, the discussion on methods seems to be academic.

When we talk about a full deck separation, then some methods offer advantages. But again, we might be talking about max. 20-30 second difference.

It is more important to justify the action of going through all cards. I usually do it in the beginning - under the context of removing the jokers from the pack - or while searching for a certain card or cards.

Another criteria is the deceptiveness of the cull. Is it angle proof? Are the moves natural? and so on . . .

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Furniture
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I heard a long time ago about Tamariz' favourite method, but maybe someone can she some light on this./

For instance if peek the top card and then go with the cull you just need to cull 3 cards to the top.

let me know your thoughts
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May I ask what you are going to do after culling four of a kind to top?

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There's a cull in John Mendoza's "The Book of John", aptly called "Quick Cull". It's not only fast, it's also probably the easiest cull to get four of a kind to the top. The move is fairly deceptive, if you do it casually between tricks.
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Quote:
On 2008-01-11 10:09, Uli Weigel wrote:
There's a cull in John Mendoza's "The Book of John", aptly called "Quick Cull". It's not only fast, it's also probably the easiest cull to get four of a kind to the top. The move is fairly deceptive, if you do it casually between tricks.


Danke Uli,

I have owned this boo for may a year but I have not looked at it in a long time. I will definitely revisit it!

Best,
Vlad

PS My German is beyond poor, so please forgive me if Danke is the wrong word for thank you. I am MUCH better at Italian Smile
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Marlo's prayer cull was designed to cull four cards, and I use it and a hofzinser HEAVILY in my work.

I think though that one of the best and most underused culls is from Erdnase... I won't say which one though.

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Furniture
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Uhmm.. I am quite interested in Marlo´s cull as I normally use Hofzinser.

Where can it be learned?
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On 2008-01-14 08:34, Furniture wrote:
Uhmm.. I am quite interested in Marlo´s cull as I normally use Hofzinser.

Where can it be learned?


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Harry Lorayne's 4 card cull is great and fast.
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A good fast cull is practiced cull. The roadrunner dvd is outstanding.
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Does anyone know where I can get a copy of the roadrunner DVD?
Is it still being sold?

Thanks,
Tim
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That's it - it's the only cull I use - have been for decades, since publishing it in APOCALYPSE. I've taught it in a few of my books - quite often with different handlings to accomplish different results.
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Faster (or should I say smoother) way to cull 4 cards is to cull random card at beginnin and after that cull the 4 cards.
Usually culling first card can have little bump stop motion, so I prefer to cull random card first to under the spread and use that to make other cards culling easy/faster to pick. Its not really special method but its worth trying out to speed up regular cull.
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