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kShepher
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I'll vote for Roadrunner. Once you get it down it is lighting fast.
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I agree with Kostya Kimlat's "roadrunner cull". Its also good practice in getting a good fluid rhythm going with the cards
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After playing with this for a while, I now prefer Benjamin Earl's "casual open placement" for 4 cards or less from his Gambit #2. Fun to do as well. You should definitely check it out.
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As one of you said, we have to justify the move. Also, the cull must be deceptive. I saw Kimlat unknowingly exposing the cull on one of his videos.
This just reminds us to practice some in front of a mirror.
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Check out the Hobbzinser Prayer Cull - Stephen Hobbs Technical Tool Box DVD set. There are a ton of other useful techniques throughout this whole series....
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On Oct 4, 2018, magicfish wrote:
Cull Down- Doc Valles.
Apocalypse.

Magicfish:
Do you have a reference for this? I have the all electronic PDF versions of Apocalypse from The Conjuring Arts Research Center but cannot find this via word search or in the indexes. Probably me overlooking it somehow. Appreciate the help.
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Apocalypse Vol. 11-15 (Vol. 12, No. 8)
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On Oct 17, 2018, countrymaven wrote:
Apocalypse Vol. 11-15 (Vol. 12, No. 8)

Countrymaven thank you for the reference, somehow I skipped over that volume....
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Lewis Jones has a Cull called The Invisible Cull in Semi-Automatic Card Tricks vol.3. It’s pretty fast and as the name implies it’s invisible.
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I appreciate the kudos for the RR cull. I have previously found Kostya Kimlat a little short on explanations, but will give it a good try. I trust your judgement. Also the others, I also appreciate these ideas. thanks.
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I think the Roadrunner download he produced goes into great depth. Highly recommend.
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Anyone have a reference for Lorayne’s 4 card cull?
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On Feb 7, 2019, DrBrewhaha wrote:
Anyone have a reference for Lorayne’s 4 card cull?

It's not Lorayne's, it's Doc Valles'.
Apocalypse Vol.12 No.8
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It's something I use quite often. And, I've published a couple of variations of same in a couple of my books.
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WITHOUT a doubt the roadrunner cull. I don't believe it is Kostya Kimlats invention, but he does teach it on a dvd.
This is by far the quickest way to cull four of a kind. With a stopwatch no other method can compete.

Whenever I use it to cull four of a kind it is done in an off beat moment. Uses just a few seconds and no one notices or thinks more about it.

that's the method you want to use if you are going for speed.

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Doc Valles's Cull Down - which I taught in APOCALYPSE many decades ago - is as fast as you can do one spread through of the deck. So your oh-so-definite statements don't make too much sense. Do they? Do you even know Cull Down? Doubt it.

If you don't, how can you make those terribly strong DEFINITE statements? "With a stop watch no other method can compete"??? Wanna' bet? Nothing wrong with the roadrunner cull (I can't do it) but that's not the point. The point is that you're making such strong definite statements as if you KNOW ALL - and, I may be wrong, but I doubt that you KNOW ALL.
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Don't know know and have never heard about it, so I doubt it is as good. However if it can be done as fast as spreading through the cards in a rapid manner then awesome! Then it might be close to or even just as good as the roadrunner cull.

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On Feb 8, 2019, Jell92 wrote:
Don't know know and have never heard about it, so I doubt it is as good. However if it can be done as fast as spreading through the cards in a rapid manner then awesome! Then it might be close to or even just as good as the roadrunner cull.

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Magicfish: That's correct. However, there is often a connection between what is popular in the card magic world and what no one has never heard about. The hofzinser cull is largely considered to be the best way to cull four cards. Can you elaborate on the method behind the cull you are talking about?

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Jell92,

Many years ago I watched a tape of a New York Magic Symposium. This was a gathering of some of the best close-up artists on the planet. I had read HL's books but had never seen him perform. Harry was called upon by Max Maven? (Not sure) to do something.
Harry stood up with nothing. Somebody tossed him a random deck of cards from the audience. Without hesitating, one of the best performers with a deck of cards ever, went into action. While talking to the crowd, He quickly spread through the pack to remove any jokers, thoroughly shuffled the deck, and slapped down 4 packets of cards. On top of each packet was an ace. The crowd went wild and my life changed forever.
It was the most incredible thing I had ever seen.
I recognized the effect as Halo Aces from Rim Shots. But how on earth did he do it from a shuffled deck? I was perplexed for years. I thought about writing Mr. Lorayne a letter (pre internet) and asking him but I would never have done such a thing.
I kept reading. And reading. And reading. Several years passed. Then I picked up the latest HL book and there it was. He referred to it by name. Cull Down.
I closed the book and my eyes began darting back and forth. My heart rate quickened.
I scrambled for my Apocalypse volumes and there it was. Just sitting there. After all these years, this was how the great Harry Lorayne fried me and everyone in the room.
It took me over 10 years to discover this great sleight.
I'm giving it to you here.
I hope you like it.
Good luck sir.
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