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Gary Yin
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It's one of the natural way to ditch a coin. This is one of the first tricks my friend showed me 5 years ago that made me into magic. The focus point is in the elbow rubbing, not the hand. It's natural to rub with the hand bent towards the head. Imagine rubbing it with a straight hand, not visual, and too robot.

I still love the Danny Archer's routine about having to go a surgery to put slots in his ears and elbow to compete the NY guys and produce 3 coins from the ears and from the right elbow from his empty hands. The structure is constructed well and goes along with the patter. Can be found in Coinvention DVD.

So I think patterwise, the surgery gag or serious is nice. Just don't go for a real surgery tho.
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I explained that I have a trapdoor on my left elbow...
Then 3 dollar coins vanish in the trapdoor, only to magically reappear in the left hand...(the effect)

As Rannie said, I've never heard any comment from the audience complaining about the use of elbows or any other part we use in coinmagic...

Phedon, +1 !!

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I'm not sure one would ever hear from the audience "why are you doing that?" It's doubtful that in polite society, anyone would interrupt to ask such a question aloud. They're also probably surprised by the production and would be too busy reacting to that to think about the Why. So, SHOULD there be a reason to do the magic or is the visual suprise enough? On a somewhat similar note, when you go to a horror movie and see special effects gore that's just there for gore's sake and doesn't drive the story line, do you care? One might legitimately argue that people enjoy the movie regardless.

On a personal satisfaction level, I would like my magic to make some sense (at least to me!). Hanging Coins is another one that I've wondered about. Why HANG INVISIBLE coins in mid air? Again, it seems that this is a method that is looking for a more logical presentation. In thinking about it, I may try something like "you know how pay phones are dissapearing now that we all have cell phones?..." and insert coins that really disappear into the invisible pay phone. Or perhaps talk about how slot machines make your money disappear. Okay, that's still defying logic, but it is somewhat more satisfying to me to have (an albeit weak) explanation. I'll have to dig back through my Roth material to see what he usually says for Haning Coins.


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On 2008-01-12 05:01, phedonbilek wrote:
Why the elbow? For ditching purposes. Works great. I always use my elbow. Now, if you're questioning yourself about the logic behind the elbow thing, I think you're missing something. You're OK with transferring coins from one hand to the other to vanish them, you're OK with actually the very fact of vanishing them (why would I make money disappear?), you're OK with biting coins, but you're having issues with using the elbow Smile ?

Phedon




Who said I WAS ok with those things? Smile

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"I always keep an extra coin glued to the back of my hand! Here's another I keep on my elbow...don't you?"
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I dunno about why, but it sure plays huge on spectators and I feel like I over use the gag like crazy.
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"Toukus" a long time to get there but we got there.

Elbows are a much safer place.
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I forget the exact line, but the man I call my mentor says something like 'Magicians store coins behind their elbow when they're not using them', or something like that. Not sure if the line's his own, or if he got it from somewhere else, but it's probably the latter
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On 2008-01-12 11:57, Frank L. wrote:
I'm not sure one would ever hear from the audience "why are you doing that?" It's doubtful that in polite society, anyone would interrupt to ask such a question aloud. They're also probably surprised by the production and would be too busy reacting to that to think about the Why. So, SHOULD there be a reason to do the magic or is the visual suprise enough? On a somewhat similar note, when you go to a horror movie and see special effects gore that's just there for gore's sake and doesn't drive the story line, do you care? One might legitimately argue that people enjoy the movie regardless.

On a personal satisfaction level, I would like my magic to make some sense (at least to me!). Hanging Coins is another one that I've wondered about. Why HANG INVISIBLE coins in mid air? Again, it seems that this is a method that is looking for a more logical presentation. In thinking about it, I may try something like "you know how pay phones are dissapearing now that we all have cell phones?..." and insert coins that really disappear into the invisible pay phone. Or perhaps talk about how slot machines make your money disappear. Okay, that's still defying logic, but it is somewhat more satisfying to me to have (an albeit weak) explanation. I'll have to dig back through my Roth material to see what he usually says for Haning Coins.


- Frank


In Joe Rindfleisch's version of hanging coins in "Extreme Coin Magic" he explains that his coins look so shiny because he cleans them so often. He then goes on to explain that to 'dry' them he puts them on a clothes line / hangs them in the air.

His rationale is that he needs to make his coins invisible or else some no-good-nick that comes passing by might steal them (justifying their invisibility). In the end he collects them all from the clothes line in one fell swoop.

I rather line this approach.

-Remy
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If you don't think the elbow makes sense, what do you use / where do you suggest?

Phedon +2
John T Cox
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The elbows are within easy reach, they keep the focus of attention in a smaller space than other more distant locations like the knees, you don't have to turn away or bend over, your hands and arms are always in sight, and they are away (supposedly) from the places you could ditch a coin.

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I just want to say some friends told me they were not impressed by coins from the elbow because it's easy to stick coins behind the sleeve and hide them just behind the elbow.
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