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Mr. Muggle Special user 999 Posts	Posted: Jan 16, 2008 03:56 am 0 The following was posted on the Genii forum January 13, 2008... Quote: I have come to an important decision today, after many months of deliberation. Beginning next week, only subscribers to Genii, The Conjurors' Magazine, will be allowed to post on the Forum. Non-subscribers will continue to be able to lurk, but they will no longer be able to post. We will continue to allow people to post under pseudonyms, however everyone's real name will have to be known to me (and held in the strictest confidence). This is so I will be able to check your name against the list of subscribers in our database. The only way to do this is to wipe the current registration records clean. This means that all those who wish to post on the Forum, and are subscribers to Genii, will have to re-register. We are going to make this change in the coming week. Unfortunately this also means that people who purchase Genii at magic shops won't be able to register. We have no reliable way to ensure that they purchase the magazine every month. I do appreciate the efforts and contributions everyone has made to the Genii Forum over the past seven years, and I hope that all of you who are subscribers will remain with us as we enter this new era. Thank you. Richard Kaufman It will be interesting to see how the Genii forum changes in the next few months. I for one, wish Richard good luck with his decision - it will be interesting to see if the forum's content improves due to the change. Time will tell. "Now you're looking for the secret... but you won't find it because you're not really looking. You don't really want to know the secret... You want to be fooled." - The Prestige (2006)
Payne Inner circle Seattle 4572 Posts	Posted: Jan 16, 2008 04:03 pm 0 Years ago when the EG went from free to a subscription service the number of posts plummeted overnight but the overall quality of the postings increased exponentially and were made all the better from the decrease in the background noise. Since I already subscribe to GENII the changeover won't effect me at all. "America's Foremost Satirical Magician" -- Jeff McBride.
Review King Eternal Order 14447 Posts	Posted: Jan 16, 2008 08:11 pm 0 I wish the Café charged a fee and you had to supply your real name, etc. That would end the annoymous jokers throwing rocks from the shadows. "Of all words of tongue and pen, the saddest are, "It might have been" ..........John Greenleaf Whittier
John Iacono New user N. California 53 Posts	Posted: Jan 22, 2008 12:02 am 0 Subscribe to Geni to use the forums, not me.
silverking Inner circle 4586 Posts	Posted: Jan 22, 2008 12:49 pm 0 No John, subscribe to Genii AND use the forums.
Bob Sanders Grammar Supervisor Magic Valley Ranch, Clanton, Alabama 20494 Posts	Posted: Jan 23, 2008 05:59 pm 0 Quote: On 2008-01-16 21:11, Christopher Kavanagh wrote: I wish the Café charged a fee and you had to supply your real name, etc. That would end the annoymous jokers throwing rocks from the shadows. I do agree on the use of real names. It adds a level of accountability. Bob Sanders Magic By Sander Bob Sanders Magic By Sander / The Amazed Wiz AmazedWiz@Yahoo.com http://www.magicbysander.com/
edh Inner circle 4698 Posts	Posted: Jan 23, 2008 06:28 pm 0 What's to keep you from registering using a fake name? Magic is a vanishing art.
Bob Sanders Grammar Supervisor Magic Valley Ranch, Clanton, Alabama 20494 Posts	Posted: Jan 23, 2008 06:47 pm 0 Quote: On 2008-01-23 19:28, edh wrote: What's to keep you from registering using a fake name? Richard still requires your real name to register even with a screen name. Read his list. Bob Sanders Magic By Sander Bob Sanders Magic By Sander / The Amazed Wiz AmazedWiz@Yahoo.com http://www.magicbysander.com/
msc455magic Inner circle Taipei, Taiwan 1523 Posts	Posted: Jan 23, 2008 07:27 pm 0 I too, feel that the quality will become better with Kaufman's decision. In fact, it is already starting to show. Best, Charles Magic of Japan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tks9xf13Pqs
gaddy Inner circle Agent of Chaos 3149 Posts	Posted: Jan 24, 2008 02:53 am 0 I buy Genii from Misdirections Magic Shop- less that 3 miles away from my house! Bummer about that as I liked looking at the forums too... ah well... cheers, G due to The Magic Cafe's editorial policies, words on this site attributed to me cannot necessarily be held to be my own.
DerZauberer Elite user Southern California 468 Posts	Posted: Jan 24, 2008 11:40 am 0 I never really used the Genii Forums. This forum and moderating another is enough for me at present. I don't want to spread myself too thin. Since I already subscribe to Genii, I may check it out though.
Bob Sanders Grammar Supervisor Magic Valley Ranch, Clanton, Alabama 20494 Posts	Posted: Jan 24, 2008 11:44 am 0 Gaddy, I think Richard will allow you to register anyway because you buy your copies at a dealer with counter sales of Genii. Give him a shot at it! You may be surprised. I think he has experienced a learning curve by now. By denying the counter sales people to register he will be in direct competition with the magic dealers selling his magazine. They are also the advertisers! They may drop their ads. Dropping the ads is too high a price for Genii to pay. The ads are also a reason for reading the magazine. Thus, he could lose subscribers anyway. The effects of economics often improves decisions. My bet is you're going to be allowed to register. However, it also destroys the integrity of the "grand plan". A basic rule of predicting decisions is "Follow the money". Bob Sanders Magic By Sander Bob Sanders Magic By Sander / The Amazed Wiz AmazedWiz@Yahoo.com http://www.magicbysander.com/
landmark Inner circle within a triangle 4712 Posts	Posted: Jan 24, 2008 03:13 pm 0 Seems to me this is going to cost RK money. Participation in the forum leads to more knowledge of the magazine and thus eventually more subscriptions. Limiting the forum to subscribers is going to eventually limit the number of people tied to the Genii brand. My prediction is that it will make the quality of the forum higher, but he'll get many fewer page views and new subscribers. In any event I wish him the best. Jack Shalom Gerald Deutsch's Perverse Magic: The First Sixteen Years available now. All proceeds to non-profit charity Open Heart Magic. You can read my daily blog at Musings, Memories, and Magic
Bob Sanders Grammar Supervisor Magic Valley Ranch, Clanton, Alabama 20494 Posts	Posted: Jan 24, 2008 06:41 pm 0 Jack, I think that is a very sober approach. It is a free enterprise system. Richard Kaufman has the right to his decisions about Genii magazine and forum. I also wish him the best. Bob Sanders Magic By Sander Bob Sanders Magic By Sander / The Amazed Wiz AmazedWiz@Yahoo.com http://www.magicbysander.com/
Richard Kaufman Inner circle 2391 Posts	Posted: Jan 24, 2008 10:23 pm 0 Anyone who purchases Genii monthly at a magic shop, and wishes to register on the Forum, has only to ask the owner of the magic shop to either call or e-mail me and give the person's name and e-mail address, then that person can register. Very simple. It's not just for subscribers, but for ALL readers of Genii. Anyone, Genii reader or not, is free to lurk.
Mercury52 Inner circle Kevin Reylek 2111 Posts	Posted: Jan 24, 2008 10:47 pm 0 That's good to hear that monthly purchasers can get in on the action. I'm not a subscriber, but do buy every month from my local shop. This forum and others take up most of my Internet forum time, so I don't really spend much, if any time over at Genii, but I may have to swing by and check it out. Kevin Reylek
Randwill Inner circle 1915 Posts	Posted: Jan 26, 2008 09:50 am 0 Quote: On 2008-01-24 23:23, Richard Kaufman wrote: Anyone, Genii reader or not, is free to lurk. How does an old member, and non-subscriber, gain access to the Forum to lurk? My old name and password will not work anymore.
Magiguy Inner circle Seattle, WA 5356 Posts	Posted: Jan 26, 2008 10:26 am 0 Randwill, Lurking simply means that you can visit the site, browse the topics and read the various posts. You do not log in and you cannot post replies.
bsears Inner circle Cincinnati, Ohio 1035 Posts	Posted: Jan 26, 2008 05:28 pm 0 What it means for me is: I think I may have to start spending more time there, rather than here. real names equal better discussions in my book.
ElliottB Inner circle 2926 Posts	Posted: Jan 26, 2008 06:54 pm 0 Aha!! I was wondering why I couldn't log in. Well, I'm a subscriber and even an occasional advertiser, so I hopefully I will be able to get back in soon. My websites are: http://ebswitch.googlepages.com/home https://sites.google.com/site/manualofmystery/ https://sites.google.com/site/mindblastersusa/
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