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BaryBazz
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I am not a beginner with coins/money and have some basic knowledge.I would like to put together a visual and powerful routine of 6 coin/money tricks which are almost self working or with the minimum of slights.All suggestions would be welcomed.

BARRY
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So would most of us want to do this However nothing is that easy .
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Hi Barry,

I would suggest Hopping Half as one of your routines. I always get great reactions and it doesn't require much at all in the way of sleights.

Regards, Steve
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Scotch and Soda is another.

Jim
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Get a copper/silver coin... lots of options there.
BaryBazz
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Thanks.
OK so just lets have your 6 best coin/money routines from matrix downwards.

BARRY
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In the book "Fechter" there's a routine called '6-4-5'. It's basically a three phase trick done with 6, 5, and then 4 coins and each phase can stand alone.
It requires a table and is fairly easy to do.

You could start with a one coin Flurry, do the above and end with coins thru the table.
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Just curious why six routines?
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In my humble opinion it is this lack of self working coin tricks that makes getting into coin magic so difficult. Most of us start with self working card tricks and then develop basic slights to expand on our armoury of card effects.

For the newbie at the end of a self working card effect the spectators can still pick up the props and examine them and then you can use the same deck for a different self working trick and so it goes on. You then gain the confidence and motivation to put in the practice time to learn 'proper' slights to move away from the self workers in order to have a more varied and creative set.

Basically you can not do this with Coins.

Sure there are self working coin tricks out there such as S&S and Hopping Halves, but at the end of each trick you generally can not let the spectators handle the props and to do anther trick you have to bring out a different set of trick coins. None too interesting or affordable in many cases.

This means that the only choice you have is to spend several months learning a few basic slights that will only allow a few tricks. These new coin effects generally don't play as well as the card tricks that they already have learned and are comfortable with hence it's given up pretty quickly and out comes the cards for anther round of 'OOTW'.

I once seen it written that you never see OK Coin Magic, just really good or really bad. If the slights are not flawless then it's obvious what's going on and the impact is lost. This is the challenge with coin magic, and I know that it took me 4 years to eventually get round to putting in the time need to start learning slights properly and then a further 2 years to turn those slights into routines that play well.

And I think it's a great thing that it's so difficult, I don't want everyone doing coins - that's my job!

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John
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Shrinking Penny..or the "penny smasher" with a ma_ _ _ _.

Finding a coin in a dinner roll.

Bending coin illusion.

Using a shill to vanish a coin under the hankerchief.

Paris Drop...is one that I have seen open eyes even when to my "trained eyes" was not so good.

paper clips on a folded dollar..(paper not really metal coin magic)

The imagined coin vanish is one of the slickest and still plays well for the guy that can start a routine with 5 coins palmed in each hand..one in the sleeve

Thanks for the reminder that KISS (keep it simple sorceror still applies..)

Enjoy your journey..

As always I suggest you get out coins play, record, and bring in your other interest...(mine include story telling and musical instruments..)

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On 2008-01-25 08:44, BaryBazz wrote:
I am not a beginner with coins/money and have some basic knowledge.I would like to put together a visual and powerful routine of 6 coin/money tricks which are almost self working or with the minimum of slights.All suggestions would be welcomed.

BARRY


My opinion(not like you asked me or anything) is that you study the bible. By "study" I mean read, and by "the bible" I mean Bobo's Modern Coin Magic. Towards the back of the book, there's a TERRIFIC routine by the Late Milt Kort called "Too Many Coins" that I know I've used for years. All you need are six coins that all look alike and one contrasting coin. It's actually a 7 phase routine, but you can eliminate on of the phases if you must. The whole routine gets great reactions, and you can turn it into quite a funny routine once you get the swing of it. The best part is that all the tools you need to learn the routine are already in the book, so you'll only have to jump back a few pages to refresh your recollection if you don't recall any detail of techniques or routines involved in the Kort routine.

Try it, you'll like it.....
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Sheeps and Thieves is another old school self working coin trick. Also in Bobo
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Jmcgrath;

Good point and very well said. And especially your final conclusions. That's exactly the reason why some of us (me) decide to pursue the coins instead of cards.
Because it is difficult. I'm not saying cards are not. And I like your thinking on, I paraphrase, " coin magic is either performed really well or performed really poorly. There is no middle ground"

Jim
BaryBazz
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Thanks to everyone for your input and in particular jmcgrath (John) for a great post which gives me a better understanding of coins and magic.I suppose that there is no substitute for the hard slog of learning the slights and then spending many hours practicing them till perfected.

I originally chose 6 because I felt that this would be about the right number of effects to learn and always have available to perform.

Goodhandz , I am going to study the bible look up the effect and give it a go.

BARRY
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Eric --

I just noticed, but I love that you have a quote from House in your signature.
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On 2008-01-26 00:39, mfeld wrote:
Eric --

I just noticed, but I love that you have a quote from House in your signature.


ha ha ha I watch it religiously.....Tuesday nights at 9pm EST on Fox(Viewer Discretion Is Advised)
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obuch
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Maybe you would like to 3 coin vanish and reaperence? I found that every coin magician can make one that fits them perfectly so you should take 2/3/4 coins and try it. good start is 3 coins on table you take 1 and do ROV or anything like that. take 2 and wave over fist so first coin dissapered and ROV second coin. with third coin wave you dissapered 2 coins now just think how to do third coin.

I found its good start and some people I know had very nice ideas - new ideas new sleights just by this litle routine and thinking how to change it
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