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jcmazzolado
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Hey there- Is anyone doing a hospitality routine. I'm thinking of building one and I own the book but the details on the drink gimmick is pretty sketchy -
"spend and afternoon experimenting...".
The prop descriptions are great but I am clueless as to where to start with the colors.
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"Spend the afternoon experimenting" .. at least. As usual Stienmeyer's knowledge and thoroughness shows through. I very much doubt you want to do this routine or at least after you do you won't want to do it. It's one of the hardest "standard apparatus" routines that I have ever seen. It's an amazing routine however it takes a lot of thought to communicate to the audience clearly. After the first drink or two you are essentially just doing the same effect over and over again. Here's a link to a performer doing this effect that helps to show all of the possible pitfalls of performing this effect http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZOfcahWVrw . It really is an amazingly challenging routine, if you're looking for a pet project that will make you think in order to perform this is the one. Also, depending on how clever you are you could be looking at close to 30 mins of set-up before the show and I'm not even close to kidding. So again your quote of Stienmeyer's is very true and just the start.

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I have this prop and it does take a lot of set up time aside from the 7 kinds of drinks and ice you have to bring along in a cooler. The prop itself is easy to build. I use glass instead of the plastic cups to add class to the act.
You do have to experiment a lot with the colors. I have several small plastic bottles of food colorings prepared.
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Ouch. That was a terrible 'performance.' I think this is a routine for a permanent-location show and someone who has a lot of set-up time. Here is the routine done very well, as always, by Lance Burton:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hM1dqMeGm8
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Thanks for the tips. I was planning on adding this for one series of shows in a theater. I agree that the prop is easy to build but was unsure if people were just using food color or some other coloring agents.
It does take a string performed to carry this off.
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Sorry -
Strong performer....
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Those vids are too great extreme opposite examples of performance and quality of apparatus. This one really needs to be performed well with both being top notch.
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I perform Hospitality. I boughy mine from David Charvet. I stumbled upon Lance Burton performing it on the video above, so I decided to give it a try. I also stumbled on the other video about a month ago... Ouch!!!!!!!!!!!!! Is all I can say. I have performed mine 6 times now, with the latest being today. I have had nothing but great reactions each time I have performed it. HOWEVER, I did mention to my other half today on the way home from our show that the prep work and after you have performed work that goes into the routine is making me wonder if it is worth it. I have tweaked mine to the point that I can set it up in about 10 minutes. Then of course she is stuck with the ugly work after words. It is not the 10 minutes that bothers me, it is buying the glasses, I use plastic and had to find a certain kind that work "smoothly" in the transfer. And like mentioned above, you have to buy the drinks, and re-stock on the "stuff" that creates the pour drinks, keep the drinks chilled, have a place to dispose of the pour drinks, wash out your milk picher when you get home. And if your critical like me, I want my drinks to be a dead on match, so I have done a ton of experimenting. I have found some definite ways around making the set up easier. I have also found that not all orange juices, apple juices, etc. have the same color per say.... So I have had to experiment my mixes based on brands, and stick with them. Of course I am not performing mine on a half lit theatre where the spectators are quite a distance away either. With that being said, I have two lists that I carry that detail all the "amounts of stuff" I need in each drink. One list for kids, and the other is the same however I use Beer instead of apple juice for the adults.
If you don't already have, I have the perfect "quick" and realistic beer "stuff" you can get. Please feel free to PM me if you have any questions.
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I perform it in my shows, set up time is about 15mins and clean up can run from 1O to 2O mins
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I have never performed it, but I do have the plans and have experimented with it quite a bit.

I really don't see how it can take the 30 minutes of set-up you mention... and I don't get how the clean-up can take so long.

If you have the 'amounts of stuff' premade and in containers, would it not be a very simple set-up?

Maybe I'm missing something here?

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Measure out levels so that when you pour the last drink you don't have extra liquid in the container, stageing each drink that will be poured, stageing the drinks that are going to be passed out. All that is an easy 15 minutes!!!

Break down time......you will see when you perform it!!

My Hospitality breaks down, each table leg breaks down into 2 parts.
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This is so easy to perform but set up and clean up is a lot of work. Good thing I have assistants to do this for me.
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On 2008-02-04 02:32, Sam Pearce wrote:
I have never performed it, but I do have the plans and have experimented with it quite a bit.

I really don't see how it can take the 30 minutes of set-up you mention... and I don't get how the clean-up can take so long.

If you have the 'amounts of stuff' premade and in containers, would it not be a very simple set-up?

Maybe I'm missing something here?

Sam

There is nothing premade, it is all prepped prior to the show. At least in mine anyways. I also found that there is one "ingredient" per say used in some of the pour drinks that will not be as effective the longer it sets in the glass. With that being said, I perform Hospitality early, and set it all up directly before I begin the show. Also doing all this without a lot of light is not easy, and you have to be careful of the "splashing" when prepping the pour glasses.
You certainly must take your time when setting this up!
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Is this the same effect I saw Paul Daniels do with a kettle and glasses in a row??...... It´s probably 20 years since I saw it:). Or that's the way I remember it.
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Different methodology but basicly the same idea.

In the audience's mind it is pretty much the same trick. I've done the magic tea-kettle (any drink called for) routine for dozens of years. It is less "work" than the Hospitality thing and plays very well!
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Thanks all - This certainly has generated some discussion.
I'm glad to hear the audience reaction to the routine is great. The work involved to me is worth it if the effect is strong. I'm like Lou. Thank goodness for assistants.
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I have actually performed this over one hundred times in the past few years (whew) and it has really grown and come along way. I also purchased the David Charvet version as it is such a great prop and could not have done it any better myself. Now I do use an assistant so I don't really have to deal with set up or clean up fortunately but have and really believe its all worth it in the end. It does take practice and great showmanship but then again I believe everything does. I did the routine exactly as instructions stated and its morphed into something completely different. Because my shows are all adults, I use booze with the exception of one glass of milk. It's really worth the time and effort and I can't imagine beginning my shows without offering the audience a little hospitality!
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Hey Cashetta ... long time no see ...how are you ? I have one too ....I use it when I book deluxe package private shows . When I have a deluxe show I bring an assistant or 2 . The Trick takes a lot of time to set and the routine is 12 mins long.....Lots of applause and lots of repeat bookings make this one a winner ...That video demo I saw was sad stuff ..... On the note of building one ... The Chalet model is very inexpensive. To make one would cost almost the same amount. Good luck Joe and ..Keep in touch Cashetta!
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INMOTION,

I know what you mean about the one "ingredient". I've found however that if you put it in the glass first and put the drops of color on top it lasts longer. For the white milk I just put a couple of drops of water on top. Still not a good idea to leave it sitting all evening in the bright lights.

Hope this helps a bit.

All the best,

John
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How do you guys bring your Hospitality with you? Is everything in just one case or 2 cases or what?

I carry it in 3 pieces: one case for the Hospitality, one case for the glasses, pitcher, milk carton, drinks and colorings and one folding stand.

I use real glasses. The weight is just right to sink it in. Also, it adds class to the act as compared to styrene 10 oz. clear plastic cups. I just let my assistant collect the glasses later. Another advantage using glass is you use less liquid and I am lucky that I can exactly fill all my glasses with the 1 liter of water in the carton.
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