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Christian Illusionist
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On 2008-02-08 12:08, MichaelKent wrote:
..... (Also adds another logistical problem of keeping cold drinks cold and hot drinks hot)


I had an idea...

What if you poured the water from a thermos while telling the following story.

A blonde walks into the office where she works and sees an employee pouring coffee out of an odd container. She asks, "What is that?"
He replies, "It's a thermos".
She says, "A thermos? What's that do?"
He says, "It keeps hot things hot and cold things cold."
She remarks how cool that is and goes on her way.
A few days later the blonde walks into work with a thermos and a different employee asks, "What's that?"
To which she responds, "It's a thermos."
The co-worker asks, "What's it do?"
She replies, "It keeps hot things hot and cold things cold."
The co-worker thinks about this and says, "Ah...what do you have in it?"
She replies, "A cup of hot chocolate and an ice cream cone!"

You could pour the cup of hot chocolate while finishing it and then produce a fake ice cream cone (I've heard they make sponge ones and one of these could be palmed to appear to be produced from the carton).

The original ending that I heard was that the blonde had two cups of coffee and a popscicle in the carton, but I edited this to fit the routine thought.

I don't know, just an idea off the top of my head.
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That's great! Now I want to see someone actually do this!
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After reading all these posts and great ideas I just ordered mine from David Charvet. Decided against building it myself.
Has anyone tried using Lemonade in the milk carton itself instead of water? It would be a little more expesive to perform but I was thinking this would make the last pour perfectly clean. This will take some adjusting of the mixes but might be worth a try. I will work on it and let you know what I come up with.
Any thoughts from those who are doing this routine??
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JC, Your idea is great, But you just have to make certain to use the lemonade as the base liquid when testing with the secret ingredients as water or lemonade with have a different response to the colors in the glass. Other than that I think you've got a great idea.

Best,
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JC - good idea. The one drink I see being a problem would be the white milk. The others actually might work!
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Thanks Jason ans Michael -
I have not tried the mixes yet but will work on it. If it works I will let you know.
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Has anyone had trouble getting a hold of David Charvet? I ordered a Hospitality from him a short while ago and was expecting it by now. We had emailed back and forth and determined when it would be ready, and it should have been delivered last week. I have called and left a few messages over the past couple of days. I am not trying to pressure or say anything negative, I was just wondering if anyone has an alternative way to reach him or his shop to find the status of the illusion I am excited about.

Thank you!
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I haven't performed Hospitality in many years but I did perform it for three years straight. The first year I had my own theater so I bought a used fridge for 75 bucks and put it back stage. I had a 5 gallon bucket for quick clean up and at the end of the day, after several shows, I would have one bucket to empty. I still had to rinse cups and wash the pitcher but other than that it was quick clean up.

The next two years where on ships but I once again bought a small fridge to make life easier.

As for prep, I have a small case that has all of my colors in large bottles with squeeze droppers. This makes it much easier to get the proper amount than a little bottle and they hold so much more I don't have to worry about running out. I wear plastic gloves and an apron to avoid getting anything on me. The recipes are in the lid of the box but I still have them memorized after so many years. Once the colors are applied I nest the cups to avoid drying and continue to get ready. Loading the cups last.

As for putting lemonade it the carton, your beer or apple juice will look more like gatoraid.

I did keep the lemonade for myself. My partner would "get the drinks" for me as I was pouring the lemonade. He would walk over to me and I would start to put the cup in the tray and then say, You know, I'm thirsty, I'll keep this one, (and take a drink.)

I bought my base from Charvet but then built another base and original routine around it. So my set up is longer than anyones as I have allot to build. At least thirty minutes for the first set up. After that it is a matter of the drinks and prep which I have down to three minutes.

Great for a in house show. Not good to travel with.

I also have a water bottle that is exactly the amount I need so I don't end up with too much or too little at the end in the carton.

Who is having a hard time finding paper cartons sealed these days? I had a company in St. Louis but since moving to Florida I have had no luck.

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I would like to perform this effect-but, I'm unable to find the manuscript. Someone told me that it was only available with Steinmeyer's Modern Art design plans-those have been even harder to get. Are the methods to both of the above effects available anymore?? Thanks, AC
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Try contacting Jim Steinmeyer he might sell you a copy. From what I understand, they are out of print.

I just got my copy last week at Martinka's. I can't wait to perform this.

I noticed people mentioned stirring the lemonade. I don't know if anyone tried or not, but what about using lemon juice and liquid sweetener? Just pouring the water should be enough to mix it.
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I created an easy way to perform this illusion five days a week here in Branson.... I have an ATA flight case with around 30 holes cut out in the case and then I bolt it to a back stage table.... The box has glasses with all the paint mixed in the bottom of each glass with a quarter inch of water in the bottom and then I mix the paint so it won't dry.... Now I have all the glasses ready for an entire week of shows... I have pad locks on the case and it can't be moved because it's bolted to a backstage table ... So the liquid is safe and ready.. we have a backstage Icebox for the real drinks..
Lot of work, but with a lot of planning makes for a great bit of magic...
It's a pain in the A---------- but all in all the audience likes it because it's a sucker effect... it's all about the routine and the talking and comedy that makes this work so the audience will stay intrested...
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Great thinking Taylor!
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What do you use for the lemonade? Is it a powder mix as mentioned in the book?

I have just had this made and am currently playing!

Can you get the lemonade mix here in the UK?


Thanks



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I use the powder mix.... I place about a half inch of powder on the bottom of the glass and then put water in and mix it before the show..... My hand palms off the fact that I have strong amount of lemon juice in the bottom of the glass....
The others only have about a quarter inch of water and paint.. The hardest part about this trick is mixing the paints, powder etc with out getting stains and splashes on the sides of the glass... You need a napkin and I use a straw to mix with... I like mixing the stuff in the same glasses that I will be using instead of mixing it somewhere else and then pouring it in...

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I forgot to mention that if you just put powder mix in the bottom of the glass and then just pour water on it on stage it doesn't taste as good or even look as good.....

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Any other options apart from paint?

I have had this for a few years now ,and done nothing with it.
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I've been experimenting with poster paints, caligraphy inks and food colouring! I have managed to get pretty close to the drinks! I've just got some water bottles and plan to mix up a large amount of each and place them into the bottles so I can simply pour in the needed amounts! By placing them into the bottles I should be able to give a good shake to mix up before pouring into the cups! That's the plan at least - let's hope it works!

Can I ask - the lemonade mix is it fizzy like cola? Our lemonade here is fizzy/sparkling! Never seen the powder mix before!

Does anyone know if you can get it here in the UK? My supermarket doesn't sell it!


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No it's not fizzy... I'm not sure if you can get it in the UK or not...
Sorry

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If you need fizz, what about crushing some alkaseltzer tablets and putting a bit in the cup?
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For the lemonade use Crystal Light Lemonade Mix (powder). I buy it in the individual use packets, which are meant to be added to a 16.9 ounce bottle of drinking water. Half of one packet is just about right for the glass size I use. Taylor is dead on about premixing a small amount of water in all the glasses, and it's especially important for the lemonade. One of the other things I tried was to use liquid lemonade concentrate + liquid artificial sweetener, which also worked well.

To keep from splashing the sides of the glass when adding the concentrates I use a "funnel" made from a single sheet of heavy wax paper rolled into a tapered tube. With practice you can roll it and fix it with a small piece of masking tape such that the taper jams in the mouth of the glass with the bottom edge around 1/2 inch from the bottom. This protects the sides of the glass while adding colorant and water, and during mild stirring.

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