On 2008-02-08 12:34, jaded wrote:
I thought Luke had a great presentation. It was nice to see a presentation that is not completely about psychology or psychic phenomena. The memorization ploy is something that people should do more often

On 2008-02-09 06:49, pegasus wrote:
Having watched Derrens version a few times now, observing, it is apparent that Lukes method can only be adopted to Derrens first effect. Derrens 2nd effect, as he performs it anyway, is a different method.

I also think that Derrens version is better too in that the spec removes a card but does not peek it, as in Lukes version where he asks the spec to peek the card 'Poker style'. I don't see the point at that stage. Plus it adds suspicion to the spec in that you may peek it somehow too. For you to name the missing card in the deck order first, and then the spec turning over to confirm is much stronger, IMO anyway.

I have an old lecture video of Derren performing the 2nd effect in which he teaches the method, and is completely different to Lukes effect. It involves an ingenious deck s****h for a m*******d S***k.

On 2008-02-07 03:24, Brandon Queen wrote:
This effect is good. It it one of the three effects that was printed in "The Bigger Three" manuscript. I'ts actually the only one of the three effects in that manuscript that I actually liked enough to perform. I believe it was designed for stage, but it's boring to perform on stage. At least when I do it. However, It does play very well in a small group setting, or even close up.

This is a steal. Because, I basically paid $250 for this effect. And now the value of my manuscript has dropped immensely. I kind of wish I saved my money to purchase the downlaod. A trend that I see happen a lot, is that great effects published in private manuscripts, end up being massivly published a couple years later. :-\

But anyway.. great effect, great price, easy to do. But.. not easy to perform and be entertainig. Definatly needs a lot of showmanship.

The routine memoria is a stripped down version of the routine without the touches that made it strong in the bigger three. This routine had previously been published without the touches and the touches additions and subtly are what makes the routine.

There is many many points in the routine that are not on the video.

The video is a basic and under developed version.

Please feel free to make this statement public. The owners of the bigger three have a much stronger and much more developed routine.

L.

On 2008-02-08 02:26, Brandon Queen wrote:
This effect truly is more than what it seems. Here is a vid clip of Derren Brown performing the same effect. Like I said in a previous post- This effct really needs a lot of showmanship to make it entertaining. It's easy to pull off, but difficult to pull off well.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=NmilV9TXQvo

Take some notes.