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dreamadream99
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Anyone know of any complex delivery methods available for Dragon's Breath?

I'm already familiar with the Volcanic Match, but looking for something more complex that could be triggered from elsewhere (not the hand), force air through hidden tubing, and (ideally) would leave you clean at the end.

Anyone have any recommendations for commercially available products?
gsidhe
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Not commercial ones, but there are some pretty easy flashpots that can be made.
Personally, I like to just throw the stuff.
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For a complicated delivery method start with FedEx, transfer to DSL then, finally to USPS.
If that is not complicated enough I give up.
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Ya mean DHL.

Also, throw in GOD and the USPS.
Hell, the USPS alone is complicated enough - they'll be sure to lose it.

Seriously though, I know of no systems. Why make a simple thing complex?
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You might be able to adapt a squirting flower... yes, the ones that clowns use... to shoot lycopodium powder instead of water. Then instead of squeezing the bulb with your hand, you can pin it under your armpit to squeeze it, or pin it down at your side so you can squeeze it with your elbow. You can even place the bulb on the floor and step on it. I would suggest having the end of the plastic tubing fitted with a glass tube like a medicine dropper so that it can hold a larger "charge" of powder.
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dreamadream99
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On 2008-02-08 21:44, Mystician wrote:
Why make a simple thing complex?


Think of what Inviso-Torch and Portable Flamethrower did for the butane lighter. Sure you could pick up a lighter and strike it and get flame, but They "souped it up" and turned it into magic. I want something similar for lycopodium. I don't want to have to retrieve a small bottle or palpitator device, squeeze it, then get rid of it. I seek somthing that (1) has delivery aparatus in place, (2) is repeatable without reset, and (3) lets me end clean.
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Haven't done it myself but how about a Sprizzer?
dreamadream99
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MagicBrent wrote:
"...how about a Sprizzer?"


I considered that, but I'd really like to rid my hand of any squeezing or pressing motion, and trigger it remotely if possible (by 'remotely' I mean elsewhere on the body, not via electronic remote control).

I really like the method behind Kevin Lupine's portable flamethrower: Triggered from elsewhere on the body, travels via hidden ductwork, and retracts for a clean ending. I'd love to find something similar for lyco. If I can't find it, I may have to try making it.
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"...adapt a squirting flower... squeeze it with your elbow...[fit] the end with a glass tube...[to] hold a larger "charge" of powder.


Spellbinder: There's a lot I like about your idea. Gives me remote triggering and I could end clean via retraction. If my commercial search yields no results, I will experiment with your suggestion.

Any ideas on multiple repeats?
dreamadream99
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So anyway, if anyone knows of any methods for delivering a lyco flash without involving the hand in the delivery (trigger) or conceal, I'm still looking.

Short of that, I've begun experimenting with CO2 cartridges, surgical tubing, and an airbrush type trigger mechanism, with some success.
rhiro
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How about a small solenoid valve triggered by a toe switch?

http://www.ascovalve.com/Common/PDFFiles......7CR4.pdf

I used a different version of this valve (had a larger orifice, but unfortunately no longer available) that worked great for a gas delivery magic application. We, too, did experiments with airbrush guts (from a cheap Harbor Freight one) but liked the triggering possibilities afforded by the solenoid approach.

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dreamadream99
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Ross: Thanks for your ideas and PMs.

The solenoid is probably an unnecessary expense for me since I already have a reliable and discreet triggering method for my CO2, if I, in fact, have to make this effect. I am still looking for a commercially available lyco delivery method, if anyone knows of one.

Does anyone have/use/like Eruption? If so, would you be willing to consult with me on it's use?
MikeOB
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I bought this years ago and was going through my old trunk and found it again. I wonder how long Dragons breath lasts?
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Surely squirting a jet of CO2 onto a flame isn't going to have spectacular results - with or without lycopodium?!!

How about a non-flammable aerosol, perhaps the type used to clean electronic equipment?
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How about a simple air bulb with a tube you can step on?
I've used it before.
But I like things simple.
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