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Cinnamon Loyal user Philippines 227 Posts |
I was wondering if any of you do this.
You may always perform the routine with a table, of course, that's practical and normal, but have you ever tried it on your (literal) stand up routine, or during public demonstrations? Performing it table less (as what I've observed) somehow removes the idea that somebody's putting the balls in via a hole. Doing it doesn't mean you have to prove something- or, on the other hand, you can PROVE something (that you are 'oddly creative' lol). Also, you could bring the very formal chop cup routine out. The con on doing it table-less is that, what if the ball would fall, or the whole cup would get off your support? If you do, kindly share some tips. |
TheAmbitiousCard Eternal Order Northern California 13425 Posts |
Genii (the one with Darren Romeo on the cover) has an in-the-hands routine that is quite nice. You can get a back-issue I believe and check out the ideas there.
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John Bowlin Special user Maryland 827 Posts |
Dennis Loomis has a very nice in the hands routine. Last I heard he had a couple copies left.
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Harry Murphy Inner circle Maryland 5444 Posts |
Fortunately this type of routine has been done and is in print (or video) some are referenced above. George Shindler has a version that he has been performing walk around for over 30 years. It is in a set of his lecture notes (still in print I believe).
Cyssa, you can build a multi (maybe three or four phase) routine. You use your own palm as the table for two or three of the phases and use the spectator's hand for the final or penultimate phase. The only time you have to worry about the ball falling is in the phase in the spectator's hand. You can steady their hand by holding their wrist. A finial phase following the "in the spectator's hand" phase could be a jumbo final load (lemon, baseball, whatever) in your own hand. Otherwise it would be a pretty standard routine in terms of moves. A chopped coffee mug would look natural for this use. However, Tim Star's master cup system with its controlled, easy release and no banging the cup would make the routine look gentle and elegant. A big plus with Star's cup is that the cup and ball can be given to the spectator and the gimmick not be tipped. It is in your control.
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Cinnamon Loyal user Philippines 227 Posts |
Hey Harry. Woah thanks for the idea! Doing it on the spec's hands would add magc to it. Never thought of that, but let me try it. Thank you!
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RevJohn Inner circle Oregon City Oregon, Oregon 2473 Posts |
June 2002 is the Genii Magazine referenced above.
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
I just thot,,, w in hands you could drop the hand w cup to your side while they look over the ball and load a final using a ball dropper. sorry 4 abriev's, rh is in bandage-no injury just 4 retaining hand lotion due 2 splits near nails
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DeWayne Veteran user Greencastle, PA 361 Posts |
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On 2008-02-09 07:26, Harry Murphy wrote: Thomas Wayne's Coffee Chop comes with an "in the hands" routine. DeWayne |
Larry Stangel New user Rhode Island 93 Posts |
I've been contemplating an in the hands routine. I've never tried this but I envision a phase where the spectator actually holds the cup 1-2 inches above their own hand with instructions to slam down the cup as soon as they think the ball has vanished from my hand. I'm thinking that their reaction would be similar to that of when a second sponge ball appears in their hand. Like I said I have yet to try this stratagem but feel that it might be worth it. I've tried this with my wife with the cup over a table. She was impressed and she's tough to fool these days. It's natural for them to move quick as they're trying to keep you from sneaking something under the cup. Hopefully this will keep them from making the connection to how the chop cup works. I've seen other performers that drop coins from a Classic P*** into a spectators waiting hand with good results.
Larry
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
I have done in the hands work at Renaissance festivals. It is very effective.
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Larry Stangel New user Rhode Island 93 Posts |
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On 2008-02-10 19:06, Bill Palmer wrote: Bill, do you mean that you've had the spectator actually hold the cup over their own hand and produce the ball? Just curious, Larry
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
I would place the cup on the spectator's hand and do the work there. There is a way to "sell" the idea of the ball penetrating the bottom of the cup when you rap your hand against the bottom of the cup. You say, "Sometimes, when I do this, you can actually feel the ball penetrate the bottom of the cup."
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Tony Brent Regular user Orlando, Florida 156 Posts |
I have had the spectator hold a magic book in their hands as a table top and performed the Chop Cup on the book. They can't touch the ball since they are holding the book. I've even done this on stage. As a kicker the book they are holding can be a "hot book", etc.
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