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Bill Cushman
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Tony and I were posting at the same time so I didn't get to read his great idea before responding to Jim's. Keep this stuff coming; I love it!
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More off-the-top-of-my-head musings...

Like Jim, I had been playing with ideas about letting them choose freely. I was thinking that a good lead-in would be to do some sort of 50/50 prediction test with both of them, to gauge them. Like, try to guess whether each of them will choose red or black, two or three times in a row. This could use any number of different forms of subterfuge, depending on how involved and how non-impromptu you want to make it. Or, since it's nothing but a preliminary test, you could keep it simple and just do it for real, let it turn out however it does, and make note of the results for future reference. Then have them do it against each other. After they're done, write a prediction based on what you've seen, and go into the full "game."
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Here are a two twists with which I have been playing around:

1. Allow the spectator to have the "one-time" option to exchange his remaining undealt packet with the other person (for his packet). If being performed with two spectators, they each have this "ont-time" option.

2. Allow the participants to, at any time, reach into the other person's packet and remove any card--and then have the other person reciprocate and reach into the first person's packet and remove any card from that other person's packet. (Or, to simply remove any card from his packet and not necessarily remove the current top card.)

While I really like Mirabill as a stand-alone effect, I've also been playing around with ideas of being able to incorporate Mirabill into a two or three phase routine. Since the Royals are "just sitting there", I wanted to attempt to incorporate their use into a routine so as to tie the entire "thing" together like a big Tootsie roll.

Right now, I'm toying with following up Mirabill with John Bannon's "Degrees of Freedom" effect. Mirabill applies to colors; Degrees of Freedom applies to a favorite suit within a certain color.

One of the other reasons I am considering incorporating Degrees of Freedom into the effect is because Degrees of Freedom passed the "wife test" and because, like Mirabill, there is a huge amount of audience involvement involved in the Degrees of Freedom presentation. And finally, the methodologies are completely different and tend to cancel each other out in the minds of the spectators.

All told, you should be able to easily get approximately 10+ minutes out of such combined presentation. And all of it impromptu and with a borrowed deck (if required).

BTW, with the "Rule of Threes" always in the back of my mind, I'm also trying to think of a 3rd similarly related effect that can be performed with Mirabill and Degrees of Freedom. Any ideas in this regard would be greatly appreciated.

Then again, maybe I should just leave well enough alone and perform Mirabill alone and by itelf. Your thoughts greatly appreciated.
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Turk

I am using OOTW as a follow up and closing. This puts all emphasis back on the participant, and is in my opinion is a great way to end.

Tony
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On a sidenote -- Bill, have you tipped off Barrie Richardson about this? I think it's right up his alley.

I've said it privately and I'll say it here: well done.

Best,
Neil
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I would play it as the game of war
And I would have the second prediction already written and bring that in to play first - it would have written on it 'the second game will be won by...' etc
Then for the second game I would have seen quite a lot farther into the future
However, I concur with the idea of basing it around reading people and not getting into the prediction malarky, but basing it on some other skill
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I just read this and love it as well. Very easy to do and I think could be very fun to do and you can use a lot of presentation angles as a few have come up with. This will be used at an upcoming gig to test this out. Great job Bill
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Great stuff indeed Doctor.
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I ordered it...I will read and post!

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I thoroughly enjoy the Mirabill!!! Excellent thinking, Dr. Bill.
I have a small problem though - I never get a tie in the 2nd round;
instead I always win!
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Yes...very good...a quick read and a quick learn...but take the time to have a good presentation.

Nathan
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Mr eye - may I also recommend Worlds Apart by Pete Duffie as an inbetweener from this, to OOTW...it can set you up for OOTW too...

anyway - MIRABILL is a lovely piece of work...
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Thank you Sir. I have not had the pleasure to read that routine, and will look it up. Hopefully it will play well with Old Maid cards as well. Smile

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I've just checked - its in Inspirations, the Duffie and mighty Sadowtiz combo...
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Tony Iacoviello
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Thank you again, it is not in my library, but I just located where I can get it.

Tony
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I love all of this brainstorming, creativity, sharing and general good will on the Mirabill threads! You folks are wonderful and I appreciate all the feedback and support.

By the way, a Mirabill banner and direct link is now right next to the Luna banner when you open up the Penny forum.
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I just recently bought this puppy and am very happy with my purchase. I don't really have any thoughts to add (right now) but I just wanted to give a mention to how clever I think this routine is. I'm new to the principle at hand so it's very exciting for me to have this little bit of information. This is a cool routine and the handling (if you could call it that) couldn't be easier giving a lot of room to focus on presentation.

By the way, Bill, $15 for any ebook these days is rare. You could've easily charged much more (but don't!). Thank you for your fast delivery too.
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We love your new work with our old friend, Dr. Bill. Thank you. Were James' familiars with you?
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All,

I posted this elsewhere, but I realized my comments were not on the "primary" thread. I really have enjoyed Bill's developments here. My comment was:


I buy for a number of reasons:

1. A great routine/presentation
2. A streamlined or improved methodology
3. Simply for knowledge (to inspire and develop myself)


In my opinion, all are worthy reasons to buy. You never know when an idea or two will finally spawn a new idea or, when an "epiphany" may occur. This can't happen if I don't develop a base of knowledge and immerse myself in the ideas of others.

Biil's routine, "Mirabill" is one such example. I honestly have never investigated the "Miraskill" effect or method. I owe Bill a lot for introducing me to the plot/routine and providing a great (and improved) method to accomplish it. He has also included a number of presentational possibilities to help us blend this into current work (and our subtexts). This is very clear and concise and the method has been carefully woven together. Very nicely done.


This was a great purchase and I look forward to working more with it.

Great!

Sean
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I bought it..I love it..I'll use it...It's an elegant presentation for a true classic...Thanks Bill


all the best,
John
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