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fireperformer911 Special user 547 Posts |
What is the Best Rope Routine for the Street and best source to learn it?
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BSutter Special user Sitting on a pile of 582 Posts |
The one you design and perfect.
I would suggest you pick up a copy of "Abbots Encyclopedia of Rope Magic" for a start. Bill |
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ShawnB Special user 728 Posts |
I use Richard Sanders orginal fiber optics routine...
However he does have a new extended version out.. I get gasps on the street with this routine.. People just seem to love it. You can pick up the DVD pretty frequently on the Tricks for Sale and Trade Section here on the Café... For a good price.. I think there are a couple up for grabs now. Good luck. Shawn.
Shawn.
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marty.sasaki Inner circle 1117 Posts |
Whit Haydn's Mongolian Pop knot is a fun routine. It plays well and Whit did it on the street for years. It's easy to make small changes to match your personality.
I've gotten gasps at parts of the routine, and folks refer back to certain lines after the performance is through.
Marty Sasaki
Arlington, Massachusetts, USA Standard disclaimer: I'm just a hobbyist who enjoys occasionally mystifying friends and family, so my opinions should be viewed with this in mind. |
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Harry Murphy Inner circle Maryland 5444 Posts |
A couple of things I can think of that are very visual, angle proof, fun, instantly repeatable, and of course magical.
The first is Pat Page’s “Eternal Rope”. You cut and restore a rope. Two pieces are seen, knotted together and instantly restored to a single length of rope hanging down from the fingertips of one hand. I do it again and again walking the edge (and trying to build an edge). The second is a great routine that is basically the old Hunter knot (the one that can’t be tied unless you know the secret move). I hand out lengths of rope to passer by’s and have them try to tie the knot in the rope without letting go. It builds a crowd, is easy, fun, involves a number of people, and is a bit magical. I end it with me taking the ends of one persons rope (which ties the knot) showing everyone that this gal/guy got it! It ends the routine on a positive note. both are angle proof, both are more about presentation than real finger flinging skill, and best of all neither consume any rope! You end with what you started with.
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TheAmbitiousCard Eternal Order Northern California 13425 Posts |
I can't see how the mongo knot would work on the street becuase it's not repeatable.
I simply use the professor's nightmare. It's great for getting "3 volunteers".
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jimmy talksalot Special user new orleans 757 Posts |
The one you design and perfect.
try also tarbel and hugards magic manual and columbini |
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johnnymystic Inner circle North Adams Ma. 1576 Posts |
Any tricks that require NO actual cutting of the rope is what is ideal for the street worker, instant reset is nice and it's best to come up with your own material taking from the sources already mentioned.
Me, I'm copying Jimmy Talksalot so what the F**k do I know? *wink*
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marty.sasaki Inner circle 1117 Posts |
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On 2008-02-21 12:00, Frank Starsini wrote: Perhaps Whit can comment on this. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I thought that I read, or heard on one of the videos that he used the pop knot on the street.
Marty Sasaki
Arlington, Massachusetts, USA Standard disclaimer: I'm just a hobbyist who enjoys occasionally mystifying friends and family, so my opinions should be viewed with this in mind. |
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DoctorCognos Elite user 413 Posts |
I use a stiff rope.... and never have to worry about running out of rope..
But I created a fun, lively routine for the rope that works great and folks relate to it and enjoy it. I did it at one of our local club meetings, and heard form a couple of guys, "Finally a routine for the stiff rope that makes sense!" But when I get bored doing the stiff rope (I just can't repeat anything over and over again without some kinda change to it... And except for minor tweaks, this routine works great for me, so I won't change it a lot..) I do professor's nightmare. I tried a number of different cut and restored rope routines including the mongolian Pop knot and by the time I worked out a routine that fit my style, I got tired of carrying all the rope to do the c/r routine over and over again... I guess that I am just too lazy to do it. But for me, the less effort I put out on things that don't matter, the more effort I can put into things that do matter; like perfroming. The Doctor
The Doctor Knows.....
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TheAmbitiousCard Eternal Order Northern California 13425 Posts |
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On 2008-02-24 23:45, DoctorCognos wrote: All I can say is congratulations. That's more work than most people put into creativity. It's a lot of work. All day I've been trying to craft ONE additional line for my rope routine. I'm still not there.
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MagiCol Special user Dargaville, New Zealand 929 Posts |
At the end of the standard Cut and Restored Rope once the rope has been wrapped/coiled around my left hand hand [prior to unwinding it to show the knot has gone], I approach a child and have the child work magic on the rope by blowing on it. [I don't say just what magic at this stage] Then I give the outer [lastly wound on] end of the rope to the child to hold and I step back slowly from him and uncoil the rope. The rope that was cut is once again a complete rope with no knot joining the two bits. Magic has taken place!
The presentation makes the magic.
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Mark Rough Inner circle Ivy, Virginia 2110 Posts |
Look around for a Hunter's Puzzle Knot routine. I carry 5 4' sections of rope. . . 1 for myself, 4 for volunteers. A lot of folks say it's not magical, but it can be. It's up to you. It can be very engaging to an audience. It's also very good for keep your problem audience member really busy and out of your hair. And you can play for as long as you want it to go.
I think Tim Hyde has written up a good version.
What would Wavy do?
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jimmy talksalot Special user new orleans 757 Posts |
I've got a routine comming out in my product line at;
jimmytalksalot.com you'll need to sign up |
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fireperformer911 Special user 547 Posts |
Jimmy I did sign up and am looking forward to the book. I did learn Peter Wardell routine (not his he gives proper credit) from Crowd Puller DVD's
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dmoses Inner circle 2261 Posts |
I love david williamson's ring and rope.
but I think it's the 'david williamson' part that I like so much.
"You're a comedian. You wanna do mankind a service, tell funnier jokes."
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Jeff Dial Special user Kent, WA 533 Posts |
Not sure the Mongolian Pop Knot is disqualified for the street because it doesn't reset. It is, of course, disposable requiring replenishing. You just have to decide if going through 8-10 feet of rope per performance is worth it. For me, I think it is. I haven’t yet discovered the routine that fits me and resets.
There are other cut and restored routines that would work as well. As well as many non-cut routines. As always your personality and character will help you find the fit.
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TheAmbitiousCard Eternal Order Northern California 13425 Posts |
Jeff, have you seen the routine? It does NOT use 8-10 feet of rope. It uses a lot of rope. You could use less but that's not how it was designed. The only way I would use it (or my own routine) on the street would be if I wanted to do it over and over and over to perfect it. Or perhaps if you could use the leftovers for a different routine.
Even if it were only 10 feet of rope per use, a street magician is probably going to do it 10 times a day. 100 feet of rope per day is a lot to spend money on and carry around. Perhaps whit will let us know here one day.
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FunTimeAl Special user 987 Posts |
I love doing my rope routine that's the middle of my show...but I HATE the ending...it shows the gaff...and that just doesn't sit well with me.
I've altered the ending, but then I've got the "look the knot disappears in my pocket and now I've got and loop with no beginning and no end" type-o-thing goin' on...which I hate equally as much. I need a good ending to a "no cut" routine. One that doesn't expose the gaff...and doesn't end in an apparently solid loop of rope (always thought that finish gave away the effect to all but the most uninsightful of specs). What to do, what to do. Ahh, misery, my dear, old adversary. Where shall we go today? My shadow. My achilles. I am saddened by your presence and suspicious of your absence. You cheater. I despise you. Leave me and love another. I plead. There is no happiness with you, my misery. End my suffering. Yeah...ahem...so, anyone got a better "out" for a no-cut routine then? |
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TheAmbitiousCard Eternal Order Northern California 13425 Posts |
I just PM'd you . you're safe now.
love, frank
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