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Gemini Twins is definitely a good one, and I like it as many others.
My preference 'til now goes anyway to two tricks in Scarne's volume, "Upside-Down Deck" and "Traveling Aces".
Also "The Haunted Name" in Fulves' first self working book is a very good one in my opinion.
I've ordered Roberto Light, the first volume by Roberto Giobbi's on automatic effects, and I look forward to getting it! I read there are real gems in those books.
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Er..."Upside-Down Deck" requires a small setup so maybe it doesn't fall within the category, pardon.
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Some great tricks I found are in Glenn Gravvert 50 Modern Card tricks. Easy Reverse, Sixth card etc.. Lots of impromptu (self working) card magic. The cover reads $3.00. For that you can't even get a Mc D. value meal.
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Brrr! by Thomas Baxter. No set-up and you never have to touch the cards.
"it's better to live one day as a lion, than a thousand years as a lamb."
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Have to agree with "Gemini twins"
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I've been looking around the forum and youtube. I don't know Geoff Williams and can't find any description or demo. Does anybody have a link to a video of the effect for "Devastation"? Thanks.
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On 2009-02-08 10:38, redeagle wrote:
I've been looking around the forum and youtube. I don't know Geoff Williams and can't find any description or demo. Does anybody have a link to a video of the effect for "Devastation"? Thanks.

Here it is performed by somebody on MVD: http://www.magicvideodepot.com/main/memb......astation
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Thanks for this link, Picard, I was curious me too.

Er, about Gemini Twins...what if someone asks you "why it's you and not him/her choosing the prediction cards" or "May I shuffle the cards another time ( after you chose the cards )" ? That happened to me two days ago. I confess I didn't expect these questions, it was a bit embarassing. Probably I didn't perform it at it's best, who knows, or the spectator was particularly hairsplitting, lol...I'll have to think of a stratagem to prevent such a questions, anyway, or a good explanation if they do.
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On 2009-02-09 07:01, galerius wrote:
Er, about Gemini Twins...what if someone asks you "why it's you and not him/her choosing the prediction cards" or "May I shuffle the cards another time ( after you chose the cards )" ? That happened to me two days ago. I confess I didn't expect these questions, it was a bit embarassing. Probably I didn't perform it at it's best, who knows, or the spectator was particularly hairsplitting, lol...I'll have to think of a stratagem to prevent such a questions, anyway, or a good explanation if they do.

Hm, that doesn't sound too bothersome.
This would be my first reaction (if I thought a bit more I probably would come up with something better):
"why it's you and not him/her choosing the prediction cards"
ANSWER: Well, are you sure you'll be able to select the right ones? Believe me, predicting things is not as easy as you might think, often I even fail myself.
Let me give it a try first, and later we'll test you precognitive abilities, too. (yeah right Smile)

"May I shuffle the cards another time ( after you chose the cards )"
ANSWER: Of course you can, but I have to warn you: that will destroy the natural order of the cards created by your first shuffle (use whatever term you like, "natural order", "harmony", "energy", blah, blah). Please give it a gooood shuffle, I want you to be completely happy that the order of the cards is absolutely random. Of course, every new shuffle puts a new energy in the cards, so I might want to change my predictions so that they match the new energy of the deck.

Also, when s/he shuffles for the first time make sure to ask if s/he is completely happy that the cards are well shuffled. When s/he replies positively s/he is less likely to ask you to shuffle again later.
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It takes away from the self-working aspect but how about a simple false shuffle and/or cut after you remove two 'random' cards?
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Wise advices, Picard. these are good reasons to give, I will remember them ; thanks ! Smile
That half-disappointing performance wasn't bad if reminded me that everything has to be foreseen. Every cloud has a silver lining.
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It takes away from the self-working aspect but how about a simple false shuffle and/or cut after you remove two 'random' cards?

That's definitely a good advice too, Jaz ; but the problem was that she wanted shuffle herself the cards one more time Smile
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On 2009-02-09 09:46, Jaz wrote:
It takes away from the self-working aspect but how about a simple false shuffle and/or cut after you remove two 'random' cards?

That's definitely a good advice too, Jaz ; but the problem was that she wanted shuffle herself the cards one more time Smile

Happens to everyone. With experience it gets much easier to handle. Another important thing is CONFIDENCE. Spectators are very good at sensing performer's insecurity and guilt (usually accompanied by stiff gestures and movements) and therefore suspecting you are up to something. Try to be as relaxed (and funny if you are that kind of guy - if not it doesn't matter) as possible.
I NEVER refuse to give out the deck for shuffling if asked. Sometimes I can get out of it (as mentioned above), if not I'll just do something else, impromptu.
But in NO WAY am I going to give them reason to suspect something.
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I subscribe to every word, Picard. But well, not exactly I was talking in a trembling voice or blushing or acting nervously ; just missed a good answer, a good explanation like the one you suggested. But that was enough to make her distrustful, alas ( well, I have to add that the person I'm talking about is distrustful by nature ).
And to think that most of times I can be a good fabricator...I pay for my sins, it's the talion law Smile
Yeah, better to be ready for another impromptu, if needed ; I learned the lesson Smile
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Am just releasing a very cunning and powerful effect about gambling where you bet the spectator on the outcome of his shuffle; now it does require a setup BUT that same set-up is unaffected by a myriad of card tricks available to perform prior to the performance and the spectator shuffles the cards almost as soon as he handles them. Thus I am - rather lamely - mentioning this under the no setup self workers cos its almost a no set-up effect by default!?! There is a thread running in the workers. The effect is called 'Up the Ante' and will be out shortly via the merchant of magic. See Dominic Reyes post in the workers.
Have you tried 'Up The Ante' yet?? The ultimate gambling demo....a self-working wonder! See the reviews here on the cafe.
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On 2008-09-27 09:32, Andy Moss wrote:
Gemini Twins is a lovely effect as has already been said. The following version is one by Peter Duffle and is called '4-Some'. It is fairly similar to the original but is for me stronger.Since the e-book download was offered free to all through the generousity of Mr Duffle I feel that I can share this with you


It's in the "4 Most" eBook available for free here:

http://www.lybrary.com/free_ebooks.php

(Sorry to dig up an old thread.)
My English sucks, I know it. It's probably better than your French anyway...
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I modestly second the above recommendation...moreover, that short e-book has a packet trick, Ghost Buster, that in my opinion is a gem.
All of them require setups, though.
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"Chaos" by Pit Hartling, if can do a faro shuffle or if you dare to arrange the cards right in front of the spectators. Of course, you can still do the trick if you arrange the deck before the trick, but you asked a trick with no set-up.
My English sucks, I know it. It's probably better than your French anyway...
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On 2008-05-11 02:03, Janus109 wrote:
4/5/6 Packet Trick by Sal Piacente is pretty stong and self working.


Another vote for this killer one!
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On 2008-04-15 00:12, Leland Stone wrote:
Just recently learned it from the Ammar "Easy To Master Business Card Miracles" DVD:
Will The Cards Match? Although taught with business cards, it goes nicely with playing cards; I'm uncertain of its lineage.

5 cards are selected and shuffled, then ripped in half. The two packets are placed on a table, and the pieces -- from either or both piles -- are shifted from the top to the bottom according to the letter count in each word. A face-up and face-down piece are then paired on the table, and the process is repeated until all the pieces are dealt. In the end, the face down pieces are flipped, showing that all cards indeed match.

Fully automatic, and it kills. You have no idea how much time I've invested in what might pass as mediocre sleights, only to find that this self-worker is what really wows the crowds. Eh, that...and a little personality I suppose.

So true....I just got this dvd a couple of days ago and thiseffect is a killer...I still can't get my head around why it works , but it does !!!!!
It leaves me time to work on the presentation and not worry about the effect.
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