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How old do you think this will play? I know this trick is as old as dino poop but I recently picked it up and have had fun using it for younger audiences. I'm thinking about using it for a middle school show (6th and 7th graders) on Friday. No younger kids in the audience. I'm pretty sure this age will still get into the spirit of the trick. Anybody played this for kids that are a little older?
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I haven't personally, but I know Chris Capehart says in his DVD's Kiddin Around that he uses it even for adults. If you haven't seen Capehart perform this I highly recommend you pick this DVD set up just to see it. It's a great DVD set for any kid performer, but his Fraidy Cat was definitely one of the highlights for me. I just picked Fraidy Cat up myself after seeing the reactions he gets with it.
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It wouldn't play well for that age rsnge around here. In that age range, 11-13, I found the best stuff is the same stuff I'd perform for adults...minus most card tricks. I cut off the look don't see effects at 9 y/o.
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After watching the Capehart video again I think it just might play huge with this age group. If one were to challenge the kids at the beginning of this trick/routine with a phrase like, "I usually only do this for "LITTLE" kids because bigger and older kids like you might figure it out. On the other hand I'm betting that won't happen today."

It might create a bit of a run away train but if that won't get this age group engaged then nothing will.
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Let us know how it turns out, and I think you nailed what gets the kids going crazy in capeharts video-and while the offering prizes thing isn't something I'd do and I don't really like that idea-it's all about creating a challenge, kids and adults love a good challenge.
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I think it can work with older kids/adults, depending on the routine/presentation. I have a somewhat original presentation and I often get positive comments about it from adults and older kids/teens. However, I use it in an audience that is usually made up with a mixture of age groups, and have never tried it with an audience of adults or older kids only.

I personally draw the line at about 9-10 years old. Having said that, I recently used it at a 10 year old birthday party and got great response with it. I don't see why it would not worked just as well with kids a year or two older. In fact, your question his making me think that I should maybe rethink my philosphy about drawing the line at 9-10 year olds for Fraidy Cat Rabbit.

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No doubt offering prizes works for Capehart but I'm with you about offering prizes. Still, this trick presented as a challenge, i.e. - "You guys are probably much too old and sophisticated to be foolded by this ole thing" might be a great way to really have some fun with this in a Capehart way when performing for audiences of older kids. I'll let you guys know how it goes. It's sounding better to me all the time.

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I saw Chris perform this in the Gala Stage show at the SCAM convention this past January in Columbia, SC. Although it was geared toward the children in the audience, the adults had just as much fun watching it as they did.

On another note, where is a good place to find one today?

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I picked mine up at abbotts, I read on another thread that they have the rights to this effect, but it's the same size as the one capehart uses in his video and has small legs that you can turn if you should want to sit it on a table to perform, I prefer to hold it.
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I am no Chris Capehart but I believe this effect plays well to any age group as long as younger kids are in the audience. I have been using this effect for 20+ years & have had great success with it. When I was young & just starting out a pro at the time advised me to start out my family & kid shows early with a sucker effect & it some of the best advise I have recieved,let me explain why. How often when you perform a kid or family show do you have that one child that thinks they know everything & wants to blurt out their thoughts, the sucker effect is perfect when I perform this I focus in on that individual who seems to be the most obnoxious I do it courteously & play the game, but the kicker quickly put's them in their place, no wise remarks from no comebacks just the kicker. I have never had them heckle me or blurt out the method again. Everyone has their own thoughts on this but this is mine.
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If you can really ham it up it will work well for adults.
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If you can REALLY perform 2 sponge balls will work well for adults....but most of us are no Wayne Dobson.

I guess I should digress on my earlier statement. There is almost no effect out there that will not be found entertaining in the proper hands. I have seen a magician perform Impaled, sub trunk, linking rings, passing thru, and a number of other major illusions and effects all in one show and left the audience flat. Believe in the effect you are doing, routine it, video it, critique it, redo it...and you will know if it works. Or...get the advice of a few others that don't owe you money and don't still play dungeons and dragons and get their honest feedback.
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Mixed audiences...the adults garner a lot of their entertainment and pleasure from watching the responses of the children.

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I'm not sure that I didn't play it too strong. I told them that it was a trick that I usually only do for 1st graders and even then I have to be careful because they often figure out how it's done. So I told them, "That's why I'm calling this portion of my show, "Are you smarter than a 1st grader!" As you can imagine it got rather heated pretty quick and the end/finally just flabbergasted them. The problems was that during/after/and until I left the venue many were visibly disturbed that they were not smarter than a 1st grader, absolutely insisting they be let in on how the thing worked and doing everything in their power to get their hands on the thing. I absolutely never have a problem with crowd control. Not the case today.

Played this way for this age group, it is not trick to use at the beginning of your show. Use it at the end and get out quickly.

Had one poor kid so upset that he blurted out "I'm not dumber than a 1st grader!" I had to assure him that was not what I said. These kids were from gifted and talented programs.

I promised I'd let you guys know so there it is - and very interesting I think.
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I agree...very interesting. I wanted to say "thank you" for doing this thread. I've learned a lot and you have OPENED my thinking on some ideas.
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Yep...thanks Derrick. Sounds like you worked it just fine. Great job!

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Yeah...I think its important to remember that Chris Capehart's act almost has a street hustler/con man flavor. You see it in his "coins across" as well (on the Miser's Dream DVD) It works great for him, I've seen him lecture and I love his act.

But you should probably tread carefully with the "catch me if you can" shtick, if it's not something you're used to doing. I likely wouldn't take that approach personally, but if I did, it'd be toward the end of the show. A challenge can also set a tone and a precedent for everything else that comes after.
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Personally, I do not like to end my shows with a sucker-type trick.
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I do.
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I think it plays up to about 8, but adults LOVE it! They won't yell and shout, but I truly belive that, properly presented, it still fools 'em all ... it just won't get the outward reaction beyond age 8 or so.
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