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Ooops! I did forget to mention that, Jheff!
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I don't own the Uday bag but could you cut off the red strip?
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The red strip bag is good ... you cannot cut off the red strip!

As Hansel, Pablo and other said said a ziploc is just as good.

Used 'em both. They both rip eventually.

Osterlind's seemed the most durable but unfortunately mine arrived without ins**s.

I sent it back and stuck with the ziplock Smile


EDIT: Great just noticed Develin is dragging up old threads to reach 50 posts ... have to admire him dragging up 3 old posts on Equivoque just to post the same message 3 times
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Hey guys! What is the difference between a CHANGE BAG and a FORCE BAG? And I don't mean the "toilet seat" style change bags...those are ridiculous. I mean could this be used for a "force bag"?

http://www.vikingmagic.com/?nd=full&key=604

or this?

http://www.vikingmagic.com/?nd=full&key=1693

Thanks!

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PM'd you..
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Thank you Kannon! Smile
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Just a heads up that last week I received my first ever clear force bag - the Carlyle model which was highly recommended by many including Felix and others here that I trust.

I needed an organic way to F a word - inconspicuous and simple.

The Carlyle bag meets and exceeds all expectations - the most ordinary looking small Ziplock bag. The beauty of this particular bag compared to others I have only read about is that a small bit of g**e is used and applied to one inner side of the bag. This allows the performer to allow the spectator to pull out some red herrings, put them back - back is closed with the zipper and shaken up (Ed Carlyle recommends the use of colored & folded billets) and handed to the spectator so they can may safeley open it themselves and pull a single one out. Clean clean clean.

Really a nice product.

I little pricey but hey - it;s just the perfect tool and I don't have the talents to make one myself. Not this well made anyway.

Highly recommend.

A little hint to anyone who owns this or plans to get this bag - just use some Goo Gone on a Q-Tip if you ever need to remove the old g**e - it will come off easily and allow you to freshen the area up or start over if you mess up a little like I did initially. The fact that you can close this tight and that area is sealed makes this bag just lovely IMHO.
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A tip for anyone that owns the Carlyle bags - which I still love (and just ordered a 2nd larger 2 way this past week).

However, I was not thrilled with the adhesive that comes with the bag - just didn't hold as well as I wanted and was too sticky imo.

*** Tip #1 - I found through experimenting that the "Scraperfect Best Glue Ever" is simply perfect for these bags - easy to apply, quick drying, strong hold, easy to remove later to start over again.

http://www.amazon.com/Scraperfect-Best-G......03VWFKU4

Someone on the Café PM's me today asking about which glue works best - anyone who needs a good adhesive for these bags will be thrilled with the results of this glue.

This excellent brand of glue was suggested some time ago for some other magical uses and it is a champ - it is far better than any repositionable glue stick.

***Tip #2 - Carlyle doesn't mention this in the instructions for the bag, but it is EASY to clean the glue up after it stops adhering well and start over again. Simply put a few drops of Goo Gone/Goof Off on a Q-tip and wipe away the old glue by rubbing back and forth. Clean up a bit with a paper towel and fingers. Then put a little water on a Q-Tip and go over the same areas on the top edge of the plastic. Next wipe again with a paper towel and voila - ready like new to re-apply the fresh adhesive.
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Thanks saysold, I've used this bag with great success in the past and will try out the goo be gone idea shortly. On a side note, I hope the one who pm'd you messaged back and at least said thanks! It seems that it's to hard to give a simple thanks or acknowledgement these days when helping someone out. (At least from my experience it has been lately) again, thanks for the tips my friend.

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Yes he was very nice. I get PM's sometimes from posts years past... and some people are nice and others ... such is the Café.

There is no reason to buy new bags when teh adhesive get dirt or stops working as well - you'll see.

Best to you Derren - glad to help.
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Glad I checked back on this post - it actually came up via another search as I was researching Osterlind's Transparent Forces bag. Let me publicly state how helpful Brett's advice has been. I purchased the glue per his recommnedation and it works much better than what I had been trying - both the repositionable glue sticks and the 2 way Zig glue. Haven't tried the Goo Gone yet, but I'm sure it will work!

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I've got a couple of the Uday clear force bags. Unfortunately, the ink from the piece of paper that was inside each bag has leeched into the plastic so that the words "UDAY clear force bag!" is plainly visible on the bag itself! Does anyone have any advice on the best product to use to get the ink off of the bag without destroying the transparent quality of the bag itself? If not, I'm stuck with Windex and elbow grease, but if someone knows of a better solution, I'd appreciate any tips.
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Rubbing alcohol might work. Test on a small spot first, and make sure it can evaporate freely when its work is done.
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If nothing works, use the bag back to front so the lettering is reversed and can't be read.
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Steven:

Make or buy a Carlyle bag and call me in the morning... http://www.carlyletouch.com/force_bag.html
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Thanks, gentlemen! I'll try all the suggestions and let you know how I get on.
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Is the large version of the Carlyle bag big enough to force items larger than billets? I want to be able to hand out a bag of fortune cookies and have the spectator "choose" one. The cookies obviously have a certain bulk to them and I want to make sure the bag is large enough to accommodate this. Thanks for any insights you may have.

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On 2013-03-08 15:33, saysold1 wrote:
A tip for anyone that owns the Carlyle bags - which I still love (and just ordered a 2nd larger 2 way this past week).

However, I was not thrilled with the adhesive that comes with the bag - just didn't hold as well as I wanted and was too sticky imo.

*** Tip #1 - I found through experimenting that the "Scraperfect Best Glue Ever" is simply perfect for these bags - easy to apply, quick drying, strong hold, easy to remove later to start over again.

http://www.amazon.com/Scraperfect-Best-G......03VWFKU4

Someone on the Café PM's me today asking about which glue works best - anyone who needs a good adhesive for these bags will be thrilled with the results of this glue.

This excellent brand of glue was suggested some time ago for some other magical uses and it is a champ - it is far better than any repositionable glue stick.

***Tip #2 - Carlyle doesn't mention this in the instructions for the bag, but it is EASY to clean the glue up after it stops adhering well and start over again. Simply put a few drops of Goo Gone/Goof Off on a Q-tip and wipe away the old glue by rubbing back and forth. Clean up a bit with a paper towel and fingers. Then put a little water on a Q-Tip and go over the same areas on the top edge of the plastic. Next wipe again with a paper towel and voila - ready like new to re-apply the fresh adhesive.


Saysold: Thank you! I was on the fence about ordering one of Carlyle's bags, but I've been edging closer as I've been re-watching the Carlyle Touch videos, and your info on the glue has pushed me over the edge. Very helpful, just like you were to me a while back when you sold me a certain item to use with a certain prop what is worn on the wrist. Thanks for being such an all-around excellent member of the Café.
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On 2013-04-04 17:36, Kent Wong wrote:
Is the large version of the Carlyle bag big enough to force items larger than billets? I want to be able to hand out a bag of fortune cookies and have the spectator "choose" one. The cookies obviously have a certain bulk to them and I want to make sure the bag is large enough to accommodate this. Thanks for any insights you may have.

Kent



Kent-

The bag is big enough to easily f***e fortune cookies - they are the large size zip-lock bags with the zipper at the top. I bought a box of the real ones at Target so that I would have some normal non-gimmicked bags for pre-show work. It's quite a good size bag - you could force candy bars and other items too.

I know that Ed (Carlyle) teaches how to make the bags yourself on his Carlyle Touch DVD - but I'm not a "Papercrane" crafty kinda guy so I don't mind paying for a quality prop like this (I actually own both the large and small bags). By using a dab of Goo Gone on a Q-tip, you will be able to remove the adhesive again and again to refresh the sealing lip with a fresh light coat of glue.


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On 2013-04-04 17:59, brucewilcox wrote:
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On 2013-03-08 15:33, saysold1 wrote:
A tip for anyone that owns the Carlyle bags - which I still love (and just ordered a 2nd larger 2 way this past week).

However, I was not thrilled with the adhesive that comes with the bag - just didn't hold as well as I wanted and was too sticky imo.

*** Tip #1 - I found through experimenting that the "Scraperfect Best Glue Ever" is simply perfect for these bags - easy to apply, quick drying, strong hold, easy to remove later to start over again.

http://www.amazon.com/Scraperfect-Best-G......03VWFKU4

Someone on the Café PM's me today asking about which glue works best - anyone who needs a good adhesive for these bags will be thrilled with the results of this glue.

This excellent brand of glue was suggested some time ago for some other magical uses and it is a champ - it is far better than any repositionable glue stick.

***Tip #2 - Carlyle doesn't mention this in the instructions for the bag, but it is EASY to clean the glue up after it stops adhering well and start over again. Simply put a few drops of Goo Gone/Goof Off on a Q-tip and wipe away the old glue by rubbing back and forth. Clean up a bit with a paper towel and fingers. Then put a little water on a Q-Tip and go over the same areas on the top edge of the plastic. Next wipe again with a paper towel and voila - ready like new to re-apply the fresh adhesive.


Saysold: Thank you! I was on the fence about ordering one of Carlyle's bags, but I've been edging closer as I've been re-watching the Carlyle Touch videos, and your info on the glue has pushed me over the edge. Very helpful, just like you were to me a while back when you sold me a certain item to use with a certain prop what is worn on the wrist. Thanks for being such an all-around excellent member of the Café.


You are quite welcome - glad that I can continue to be helpful!
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