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lane99 Elite user 421 Posts |
For my money, this is the way to do it: http://www.jimclass.com/TVclip.htm
The two hosts, and no doubt most of the show's viewers, were completely and pleasantly beguiled. Speaking of money, there's some mention on that page about a $25,000 guarantee. Didn't read it in detail, but if it means I can get 25 g's if I can explain how these effects were done, then I should probably apply. But this is just an aside. The main purpose of this post is to highlight what I think is a lovely performance that I believe brought a bit of happiness into the lives of the people who saw it. |
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The Feegee Mermaid Loyal user 203 Posts |
"I guarantee that these demonstrations were done live and broadcast as they were happening and to put it simply, the hosts were not in on it."
You need to prove it was a set up and it was live to get the cash. and it looks live and not set up to me. |
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
The first time I met Jim it was when going to see his show. It was great!
Everyone wanted to hang around after the show and "Talk Ghosts" and other mysteries
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dblatt25 New user 54 Posts |
I thought that it was gret. the hardest part about figuring out the methods is that with a stooge, one can accomplish almost anything. I think that it would be impossible to prove anything 100 percent.
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
If you think either one of the TV host's are stooges, then you are barking up the wrong tree
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Heres Tony Loyal user Orlando 259 Posts |
Aren't we the ones who are supposed to know the "truth" behind all of this? This is beginning to sound like a bunch of laymen throwing in their two cents about "challenges", etc...
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Brainmold New user 7 Posts |
Maybe you could put a different twist on the routine instead? That way when people think they have it figured out, you do the double reverse and show them up. Even if you can not use a different method or conclusion, there are still plenty of other gamboling routines you could use. Be more positive and make some lemonade (instead of whine.) Let the anger go, dude. Stress and anger cause cancer in the long run. The pie is big enough for everyone to get a piece. Be nice and cut a slice.
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
Obviously you don't understand how the booking procedures work here in Orlando. The Agents don't give a hoot as to the method or your new "Sucker" twist. The effect was exposed on TV and the booking agent doesn't want to appear foolish in front of the Buyer, who may have seen the exposure, so why take the chance? He just books a juggler or a ventriloquist It's not about improvements.
Of course I still do the Three Card Monte and some Dice Effects, but that doesn't UNDO the damage that CA and JT have done in the minds of the booking agents themselves. Don't take me wrong Brainmold, but this is an issue that you must face at some time. Is the EXPOSURE OF MAGIC SECRETS GOOD OR BAD?
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Micheal Leath Inner circle 1048 Posts |
So Slim, you mean to tell me that some booking agent saw the Shell Game exposed on Angel's show and said he would never hire anyone that does a routine with the shells? He told you this without you influencing him in any way? Did you bring it up or did he?
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
Good question Micheal. Why would a booking agent who books millions of dollars of entertainment each year be influenced by one little performer like me? Are you suggesting that I talked him OUT of booking The Three Shell Game? That would be counter productive wouldn't it? There are two types of agents in general. Ones who book for a company like Universal and ones who actually book the talent. Of course you know all of this already, but why then would you ask the question?
Are you saying that CA's EXPOSURE is OK with you? It seems to me you are! But why derail this thread. Jim Callahan is on TV and a bunch of armchair quarterbacks are throwing stones. You too?
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Xpilot Elite user Florida 464 Posts |
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On 2008-03-28 22:40, Slim King wrote: Now there's the kind of point being made that I expect from Slim King. He doesn't think twice before pointing out that Jim Callahan was on TV (for around 30 minutes or less total air time) and implies that anyone throwing stones is an armchair quarterback. It really takes guts for someone to make a statement like that when they've spent dozens of hours over the last 4 months being throwing their own stones at someone who's been on TV for at least 20 hours of total air time. I guess being an armchair quarterback is only a bad thing when the stones are thrown at someone you like. All together now, can you say "ironic", or "double standard", or "WTF". |
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Destiny Inner circle 1429 Posts |
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
Since this thread is about Jim's performance on TV why would I think twice about exposing armchair quarterbacks? I didn't see Callahan EXPOSING any magic secrets, did you? But I do see others doing it for their own personal gain ... just like the Masked Magician. I can't see why Xpilot supports the exposure of magical secrets.
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
It came across well but the thing that sticks out in my mind is that he puts up 3/4 of a million dollars over the years to guarantee his demonstrations. Well can we see the money? I am just curious as that is the standard required right?
Small issues such as that aside Jim does come across well on the TV. The hosts seemed happy with his book test and my guess is he sold at least a couple tickets to his show, which was the ultimate goal right? As for exposure, well lets face it. It happens and it is bad. Hey my biggest problem with exposure is not the guys like the MM and ol goth boy, but those who expose magic because they are SO BAD AT IT! It has always been my feeling that there are more who expose it through a lack of talent and it makes a worse impression for a couple reasons. First people who watch to "learn" how to do tricks in a MM special, forget days afterwords. NO attention span is left in America LOL. Second if you are watching to see a magician and expect to be entertained and instead you get crap, that tends to stick in your mind more because of the disapointment factor. You tell EVERYONE you know! And as I said far more of these guys out there. Exposure is way wrong. I can think of few justifications for it. Just trying to add perspective is all.
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Xpilot Elite user Florida 464 Posts |
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On 2008-03-29 22:55, Slim King wrote: You also can't see anywhere that I supported the exposure of magical secrets. But even if I had, bringing it up is nothing but a red herring. Or perhaps I could just put it in words you understand (like your own)- Please point out where I've said I support exposure of magical secrets? I don't think you can since I never did say anything like that. If you claim I do then that is another "Falsehood" that you are circulating AGAIN. |
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
You support those who expose magic secrets! You are just as guilty as they are. Squirm if you must but the truth hurts. These secreats are not yours to give away!
Perhaps you could try thinking up an original idea and you will be free to give it away. CA, JT and the rest are giving away things that aren't theirs to give. That's wrong in everyones eyes except theirs and yours. Now back to the topic of the thread. I think that Jim will be doing even more TV work coming up quite shortly Equally as strong as this performance.
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Xpilot Elite user Florida 464 Posts |
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Squirm if you must but the truth hurts. Lie if you must. It seems to be what you do best the truth isn't what you want it to be. |
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
So are you saying that you Don't support Criss Angel's exposures, Johnny Thompson's exposures and Randi's exposures? If that is the case then I will stand corrected.
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Xpilot Elite user Florida 464 Posts |
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On 2008-03-30 15:17, Slim King wrote: I don't support pointless exposure by anyone. Nothing I've ever posted here says or implies that I do. |
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Destiny Inner circle 1429 Posts |
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