To clarify, my Bob's Your Uncle routine does not use a b****m d**l. The card pairs can be re-displayed from the top of the packet if desired (this is discussed in the book), but I prefer to do so from the bottom because that's the order in which the participant matched them... to do otherwise would be to confuse this order, IMO. I want to remove any potential confusion about what happened (and, incidentally, duplicate the original Zener protocols as closely as possible).

My two favourite versions of the Zener card matching test are my own (for an any time, anywhere ungaffed version, that can also use playing cards if necessary) and Bob King's Miracle Match (for a gaffed version). I generally do this as part of a more fleshed-out Zener card routine, where all the cards are handled by the participant, and thus can't be gaffed.

You can read others' opinions of this effect here.

Trickshop has a manuscript called "The Zenner Effect", which is based on David Britland's "Zennerism". Britland gave them permission to include his original manuscript along with their modified version. There's a "move" involved, but it's not much and it's done at an auspicious moment. Totally impromptu and can be done with playing cards.

They're not paying me commission or anything. Just thought I'd mention it.



serpah127

All these recommendations! So which is the nearest or the same ..as Derrens?

I actually posted what can almost be called a review of "Mindsights" here:

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......9&22

It's really good.

Elliott

Seraph127 wrote:
I posted some comments on this effect here.

... Doug

Doug's book is definately worth the price of admission.
Peace,
Parson

Dyment, cassidy, murray all have versions of this "original ESP test" its as old as the cards themselves,

Looch has a unbelievable ESP card routine called "wake up Dr Rhine" which ends in a perfect match eveytime. I wholehearedly recommend you contact him to get a copy he posts over @ http://www.mentalismplus.com

Anyone else use the Bob Cassidy version?

There is a nice version of this effect in Jon Tremaine's Close Up Mentalism video. I wasn't crazy about the ending so I modified it to suit me alittel better.

Couldn't agree more.

I watched Derren routine also. He asked the spectator to think of one symbol, then he put down one card. He asked what the spectator think of. They matched. He,then, repeated one more. MATCHED again.
Are you guy talking this samiliar version?

Yes.

Which is an effect called jazz mentalism

Barrie Richardson has a superb way of
getting into this effect too.
It's in his books.

Tom

I really like Doug Dyments method. Repeatable, very easy to learn and with a bit of thought can even be modified to your own tastes (more cards, all face down and gaffed or even two piles using extra move at the end)

I like Extra Sensory Perception by Rolf Andra. Of the two routines in this packet effect, I prefer the second. It is very direct.

Ill second the Looch routine. blew me away when he showed it to me

Could someone send me the Derren ESP Match-up video performance ?
Thanks

I know its old but if you still out there Bofx, did you ever see the performance? I got the ESP Dr Rhine itch again.

Yes, I've seen it since.
Thanks.