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Don't forget the masterpiece To Kill a Mockingbird and how Hollywood got that one perfect. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onw4THV0hWg

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On 2008-03-05 21:50, Jonathan Townsend wrote:

and hold onto your hats folks, next summer The Watchmen is due in theaters.

Have you seen the movie stills from The Watchmen that are on the web? They look pretty incredible, really capture the flavour of the comics in my opinion. Though some of the fanboys are quibbling over (IMHO) some truly minor details.
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I never want to see my favorite novels made into movies. They always get butchered After The Fountainhead came out and she saw how badly they botched it, Ayn Rand absolutely forbade any of her other books to be made into movies. Until recently her estate had done a good job of carrying out that wish. Until they recently sold the movie rights to Atlas Shrugged, of all people, Angelina Jolie.

'Atlas Shrugged' was in the news recently. Some bank is and has been (for several years) pledging money to universities, provided they teach about the book in some of their classes.

I have no problem with that, it's just something I came across recently in the news:

http://www.twincities.com/business/ci_8901570
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Well not my number one favorite, but one of them. The Book Neuromancer by William Gibson is being made into a movie. That isn't what bothers me. What does bother me is that poor excuse for an actor, Hayden Christensen, is apparently going to play the lead roll of Case in the move... And to add insult to injury, the director, Joseph Kahn, is the same guy who directed the movie "Torque."

What did you think of the movie 'Johnny Mnemonic'? My recollection is that I always enjoy the first half, but sort of lose interest before the end. In fact, I'm not sure I've ever watched the movie the whole way through.

I saw today that another of William Gibson's novels is being made into a movie, this one being 'Pattern Recognition'. I still have to read that one.

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Ooops. I just saw a note to the effect that the deal might have fallen through, and this movie may not be going ahead after all.
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The atlas shrugged thing is horrible!!! on the other hand, they did do a good job with jaws, the godfather, princess bride, catch-22, fear and loathing (in my opinion, though "where the buffalo roam' with bill murray is a better hunter thompson bio), but that's all I have now.


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The atlas shrugged thing is horrible!!! on the other hand, they did do a good job with jaws, the godfather, princess bride, catch-22, fear and loathing (in my opinion, though "where the buffalo roam' with bill murray is a better hunter thompson bio), but that's all I have now.


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"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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Movies (like most everything else) follow Sturgeon's Law: "90% of everything is crap."

Since you can surmise that only the 10% of books that aren't crap are the ones being chosen for adaptation into films, and that subsequently 90% of those will be crap, it's easy to see that less than 1% of all books will ever be adapted into films that aren't crap. QED.
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On 2008-03-05 21:50, Jonathan Townsend wrote:

and hold onto your hats folks, next summer The Watchmen is due in theaters.

Have you seen the movie stills from The Watchmen that are on the web? They look pretty incredible, really capture the flavour of the comics in my opinion. Though some of the fanboys are quibbling over (IMHO) some truly minor details.


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The atlas shrugged thing is horrible!!! on the other hand, they did do a good job with jaws, the godfather, princess bride, catch-22, fear and loathing (in my opinion, though "where the buffalo roam' with bill murray is a better hunter thompson bio), but that's all I have now.


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had some to add:

from stephen king,
shawshank redemption
stand by me (the body)
the shinning


2001
clockwork orange
red october
patton (based on 3 books)
and the band played on
AMERICAN PSYCHO!!!!!
one flew over the cuckoos nest
apocalypse now!
the right stuff



in the 70's (maybe before), a studio executive- think the name is spelled baballan, related to bob the actor-created a rule for hollywood, or at least a standard. they know that 1 of 3 movies made needs to make a profit in order for the studio to be profitable.

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To speak of movies "making money" conflates multiple business models that exist concurrently. Movie PRODUCTION is a notorious money loser. So much so that new and creative ways of financing that production crop up every several years (before the investors to whom it's new figure out that they're going to lose their posteriors).

Movie DISTRIBUTION, however, is a lucrative business for the studios.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
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On 2008-04-16 00:53, kcg5 wrote:
The atlas shrugged thing is horrible!!! on the other hand, they did do a good job with jaws, the godfather, princess bride, catch-22, fear and loathing (in my opinion, though "where the buffalo roam' with bill murray is a better hunter thompson bio), but that's all I have now.


kevin




had some to add:

from stephen king,
shawshank redemption
stand by me (the body)
the shinning


"Don't you mean the 'Shining?' "
"Shush, boy! Y'want to get sued?"

Seriously, I argue with your choice of "The Shining." While the movie had some creepy moments, the story (as originally presented in the book) was badly botched!
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You caught me on the spelling, but I'm just talking of overall adaptations of books to movies. the book "the godfather" is slightly different from the first movie, as is "american psycho" .
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My apologies. I thought you were giving examples of books that had been improved as movies. "Stand By Me" and "Shawshank" certainly fit under that definition.
"There's no time to lose," I heard her say.
"Catch your dreams before they slip away."
"Dying all the time, lose your dreams and you could lose your mind.
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Ed, That would be a whole other thread... and your examples are excellent. many of kings short stories leave a lot to the imagination, and the body was certainly improved. the stand would have been a much better movie had it not been made by a network (though lonesome dove was well done)

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I liked "The Stand," (I went so far w a y back when they first proposed the film of sending a resume and a tape of myself labeled "Test Tape of Ed Rhodes as Nick" -- it was a blank tape!)

I also liked the television version of "The Shining" as I felt it kept the flavor of the characters as their world collapsed around them. (I wasn't even upset by the redemption of the father or the "upbeat" ending which wasn't in the book. King had a different form of "upbeat" for the book.)
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"Dying all the time, lose your dreams and you could lose your mind.
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I would like to add "The Green Mile" to the list of good book-to-movie translations. Also among those would be "Ran" by Kurosawa. It is a translation of King Lear set in feudal Japan. For me "Shogun" would go into a list of the movie was actually better than the book.
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You caught me on the spelling, but I'm just talking of overall adaptations of books to movies. the book "the godfather" is slightly different from the first movie, as is "american psycho" .


The Godfather is pretty darn close.

I'd love to see King's The Long Walk made into a movie, but I'm pretty sure that ain't happening.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
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I loved shogun as a book, havent seen the movie. love the test tape for the stand thing, and you are right the tv version of the shining wasnt bad, more truthful to the book (hedges coming alive ect...)
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