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Mick Ayres
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It is simply a question of maturity.

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Mick
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Yannou
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I'd like to point out the logo of the Magic Café. It says 'Magicians helping magicians'.
Arguing is not helping. Discussions are very welcome of course, if the purpose is an exchange of ideas and opinions, not to 'win' the argument.
For comparison, please try to remember that time (or the times) that you had to work with a spectator who had that competitive attitude, one who feels your performance is not entertainment but a battle that he has to 'win' (which usually ruins your performance, just like it ruins a good discussion). I'm sure we've all been there. Remember how that felt? Not good, right? And now remember how it felt when you had a nice, cooperative spectator. I know which of the two I like best and which I want from posting here. Do you?
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Boredom lack of good threads. The feeling that everything has been flogged to death and nothing new to discuss. I think that's the basis of the threads going the way they have been going.

A few years back it wasn't as bad. But then the threads were a lot more informative and interesting.
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It's all about the Ego. Mentalists seem to tend to have strong opinions on what and how and when and with what. They've approached the point in their act wherin the whole thing works. They've justified, thought, opined, practiced, read, researched...until it all jells. Their opinion on how they reached their personal perfection must, by nature, be inflicted upon any other Mentalist who differs in approach or opinion. (Others guide and teach, these egos inflict and dictate)

Then, toss in that batch of non-performing theorists ("I would never tear up a piece of paper, why tear it up? Why not just read the minds, It's not justified...." "Why use a paperclip?" etc) whose opinions must be stated each opportunity...and then immediately defended.

Mix in 40 kids with 3 years experience...

and a half-dozen grumpy old grizzlies

...and you got the makings of a great thread that is sure to get yanked.


IMHO


Other opinions may differ.
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kinesis
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There are many that cannot help but make it personal. I also think that many people read too much into posts and topics or perhaps not enough. The written word cannot convey a message as well as a one to one conversation (audio/visual/kinesthetic experience). I also believe that we all have differing opinions of what and what is not acceptable in mentalism. Mentalism brushes very close to belief systems and as we all know differing belief systems are what makes the world such a violent planet. Personally, at 43yrs I am happy to express my views honestly. I've been in the magic business since I was 17 and doing kids parties while I was still at school. If I tread on a few toes, tough. One thing though, it's never personal, life's too short and in the end, it's not worth the effort. Generally I get along with most people. Thank God, LOL
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The veteran performers and pros have a duanting task should they choose to post here and help others, I think. Everyone wants to have the best routines and secrets without the sweat and tears that they have put in to this art. Not knowing who is authentic to wanting to improve the art and who is just looking for the latest and greatest gets tiring to see and deal with day after day, you have to admit.

I try my best to ask for help and direction (to learn where to study) from people and offer as much help as I can. I'm not a pro, but I have always aspired to be there. Without anyone near me to be a mentor, I, like many, do what we can to learn from the forums and try to create from the mass of advertising that is very difficult to see through when starting out.

I think we all need a reality check once in a while. Perhaps we could all benefit from some self-reflection and look at the submit key a little longer before we press it. I know I will do this.


In thoughts,

Paul h.
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