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The Drake Inner circle 2274 Posts |
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On 2008-04-02 11:10, Will L. wrote: Enemies Will? I think you take this all too seriously. I still don't see any place where I ever flamed you. I do see several points where I suggested you help yourself and build some credibility. To clarify.. these are the questions that were not answered. Would you show me where you answered them before you call me a liar? Or maybe just answer them and then we can move on. Quote:
Well Will, Ya got me. How silly I feel right now. When you asked why nobody was responding to your ideas I told you that professional performers don't want to waste time on ideas that are not thought out at least a few steps. I then suggested in order to gather interest that you show us something from the book that you claimed to have created or show us something/anything but you acted insulted and avoided the entire topic of why you must keep it all a big secret. In fact you've avoided the topic all the way around. Whenever you are asked for proof that the ideas ever existed in print or in reality as you claim you completely ignore that issue again and play the " insulted" card. Now... THERE is where you got me. I spoke of how I wouldn't waste time on ideas that have no proven merit and yet went ahead and wasted all this time trying to debate the topic with you. You have provided NOTHING in response so it really was a complete WASTE of time on my part. How silly it was of me and I won't waste any more time on vaporware. I'll let you off the hook now. Until the end of the month I won't jump into any NEW thread you want to post. I'll give you free reign to talk about any ideas you have or want to promote or whatever and I won't question anything about them or you. We'll then see how well these ideas fly with other Café members. Maybe then you can focus on reality and not some fictional attack by myself or any others who are only trying to tell you straight. Best, Tim |
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Will L. Regular user 192 Posts |
Quote: Walt, I was going to post my non-commercial website address, to share my ideas, and personal history, but after the non-constructive remarks, I decided not to.
On 2008-04-02 12:30, SpellbinderEntertainment wrote: maybe I will at a later date.
Todays The Day.
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The Drake Inner circle 2274 Posts |
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On 2008-04-02 14:48, Will L. wrote: And yet another "insult" card gets played instead of anything legit offered. LOL Ignore all the direct questions and answer it with..."I would tell you and prove you all wrong but now I'm mad at you so I won't." More rope..more rope...more rope. Best, Tim |
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The Mirror Images Inner circle Michigan/USA 1980 Posts |
Tomorrow is a later date. Does that date work to release the info? I would like to know this information because it is hard to take someone seriously when they are running in circles. I have yet to understand where you are trying to go with building a reputation. Please enlighten me. I have PM with interest in some effect and received no reply. No info and no pics to understand how I can help or so what. But yet you are going after Tim when he tries and helps. Now Tim is wanting you to prove what you say you say. Tim has credentials and can prove what he says. He will not say anything he does not know anything about.
Love to see your site. Cheers,
Steven and Michael, The Mirror Images
The MOST Identical Twin Illusionist http://www.themirrorimages.com Check out our latest new effect - Liquid Steel NEW - MotoBox NEW - MotoMation NEW - Voyager |
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Will L. Regular user 192 Posts |
Quote: Tim, Ememies is a strong word, but in the city I live to say you disrespect is the greatest insult.
On 2008-04-02 14:59, Timothy Drake wrote: Rope.... what ??? I honestly answered the question asked... I have decided to stay with my original plan and not to do any commercial magic (as you and I discussed when I first visited the Café) or discuss any of my ideas, only topics in general. The only exception is if someone wants detailed info on the props I forementioned.. Mirage Mirror is a fuctioning prop, if you wish to further challenge that, then put your money were your mouth is. Good Day Tim.
Todays The Day.
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The Drake Inner circle 2274 Posts |
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On 2008-04-03 11:03, Will L. wrote: Will.. why would I or ANYONE for that matter invest a red cent in vaporware? You've shown no photo or answered any of the important questions. For that matter why would anyone invest/send money to an anonymous poster? Why don't you elaborate what you mean by " put your money where your mouth is" ? Are you saying you are selling this illusion, plans for it..whatever??? "Put your money where your mouth is." A funny quote coming from someone who puts nothing where his mouth is except more mouth. LOL Can you tell us why you can't show us one single photo of this functioning prop??? I bet not. Regards disrespect... you seem to pile that on yourself. Nowhere did I ever disrespect you or your ideas. I simply told you that you have done nothing to EARN respect in this business if you want to have others invest time in your ideas. You take everything as an insult even when others are trying to help. Example: You PM'd me and you mentioned that you have ideas that you want to release but don't want them stolen. I told you that you are like all the other inventors in magic who face the exact same problem. If you release it then you take a chance of it getting stolen.. If you don't release it then someone else eventually will. I used the expression..." You are between a rock and a hard place" and you jumped back at me asking me why I was insulting you with such a mean remark? What was mean in that???? Will... you see attacks in any reply that doesn't fit your thinking. Regards the " more rope" bit. Its comes from an expression that if you give someone enough rope they will hang themselves with it. Each of your posts has been gathering more and more rope. In your last post you clearly stated.." Mirage Mirror is a fuctioning prop" That, I'm afraid, was another piece of rope. You say it exists.. so show it or consider that respect you desire from others ...hung! Best, Tim |
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mvmagic Inner circle Has written 1322 Posts |
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Mirage Mirror is a fuctioning prop Since when? In the past you said that you are not going to do all the creative work and that makes it sound like an idea. So far it has been a concept according to you. Also, you have stated you have been designer for 15 AND 20 years. Also you have said you are not a performer, but then again said certain stuff is for your own show only. You are just contradicting yourself every possible way and that just destroys every bit of credibility you might have. And Tim does have a very valid point in the post above. No matter what people say, you get very offended and play the insulted card. Its easy to hide behind that, isn't it? When you have nothing to back you up. You talk the talk but obviously cant walk the walk.
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Don Faith New user Canada 84 Posts |
Will L.-I am not taking sides here. So we can get back to what the Café is suppose to be all about, Can you please show us a pic of ANYTHING you have built. Photoshop the gimmick, hide what you don't want us to see, but please post a pic of anything so we can lay this to rest and move on.
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JayH Regular user Finland 140 Posts |
One phrase what I have heard somewhere:
"If you want respect, give respect." Jay |
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Destiny Inner circle 1429 Posts |
I so yearn for the good old days when, where there was a will there was a way...
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Will L. Regular user 192 Posts |
I offered the BASIC ideas in hopes of creating conversation on maybe what else we could do with them, not to have a endless rant.
Money were your mouth is? I said I was not going to post any more ideas. If you're serious in purchasing a prop, then fine, or if I republish my book you can pay the price like everyone else. Topic closed. (Go on ranting if you wish. I prefer to move on to some productive topics.) Tim, you can keep that rope for yourself. lol
Todays The Day.
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The Drake Inner circle 2274 Posts |
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On 2008-04-03 20:51, Will L. wrote: And there you have it folks. No photos,no answers...nadda. As I said...VAPORWARE! LOL "Republish" your book Will? that's what you said right? So its already been published??? I thought you said you had decided NOT to publish it. More rope...more rope...more rope... Best, Tim |
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Laszlo Csizmadi Special user From Hell 868 Posts |
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On 2008-04-03 20:51, Will L. wrote: Will, Answer for your first sentence: People tried to help you to give advice but you DID NOT give any information Answer for your second sentence: You should not even started the topic. Answer for your third sentence: You are Full of Sh*t and I don't think anyone will respect you anymore. Las |
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mvmagic Inner circle Has written 1322 Posts |
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On 2008-04-03 20:51, Will L. wrote: What??? You have said you made a book but never published it because you were afraid that people would steal the ideas. Now, how can you republish something like that? You are FULL of empty promises and vaporware. We're grown men and women here; working professionals. You really thought some basic ideas with nothing real could make you a start of some sort kid?
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Destiny Inner circle 1429 Posts |
Where did this word 'vaporware' come from? - I love it - so apt!
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collective foundry Inner circle 1404 Posts |
It actually comes from the technology conventions. Many times they will only be showing beta products or stuff they are doing R&D on, and have no real actual finished product. So. Started calling them vaporware.
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EsnRedshirt Special user Newark, CA 895 Posts |
Destiny,
Vaporware's a term used in the software industry, where, very frequently, products are extensively hyped for years, despite the fact that there is not much working code to show off. The most famous of these 'products' is Duke Nukem Forever, which has been in production since 1997. Often, the products dissolve away like so much mist, without leaving a trace. It happens so often that people who've been in the industry a while tend to view everything as 'vaporware' until they see a finished product. -Erik
Self-proclaimed Jack-of-all-trades and google expert*.
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Christopher Starr Inner circle Heart of America 1850 Posts |
....Is this thread still going on? I gave up on it over a week ago, but it keeps growing.
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SpellbinderEntertainment Inner circle West Coast 3519 Posts |
Then would “Vapormagic” be acts or performers you wish you’d never seen or wish would just evaporate into mist???
Inquiring minds want to know…. Walt |
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Don Faith New user Canada 84 Posts |
And do they leave behind a vapor trail?
Best, DF |
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