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Marc DeSouza
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Hi Jon (et al),

I use The Nail by Hakan Varol of Germany. It is the best, safest version I have seen. If you screw up, it's your own *** fault, meaning that you know if it will screw up before you smash your hand down. The downside is that you have to buy it from him in person...he will not send it by post...it's a liability thing. I'll talk to you more about it at FFFF...in fact, I'll try to remember to bring it along to show you.

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Hi Marc,

I believe that The Nail was one of the methods used in the You Tube video of people injuring themselves. I could be wrong though. I remember you telling me about it at FISM 2003 but I would be very interested to see the one you have. You remind me of baby photos; I'll remind you of instruments of screaming, pain and suffering. Hmmm... maybe they have more in common than I thought! ;-)

Jon
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Howdy Marc. Is the Hakan Varol version the one that uses a remo** and li*** coming from the nail?
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Hi Jon (ROFL!!!) and Larry,

Yes Larry, that's the one. It's pretty foolproof...you don't see the l...t, you don't smash the cups. You will have to figure your own way of bowing out gracefully. Yes, this is the method that Mr. Korn screwed up on TV..he must have had a brain fart!

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Smash and Stab is the best version - bar none.

One of my favourite items to perform for a small group and gets amazing reactions.

It can't go wrong unless you are completely stupid and don't pay any attention to what you are doing. You can be totally hands off when performing with the spectator handling all the props, your hands don't have to go anywhere near the cups, and you don't have all the risks of handling broken glass.

Oh.....and NEVER use a spectator's hand !!!!!
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Sorry to throw a firework into the mix after watching this on tv about a 2 years ago I decided not to bother anymore with the effect

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KMwrFKrM3U

I'm not going to rant you guys have probably seen this before but look at what happens right before the accident 'the magician was 100% correct it was just something else'

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My buddy has the Scorpion by Outlaw Effects, it's a thing of beauty!

check it out!

http://outlaw-effects.com/outlaweffects/......Itemid=1

100% safe, if done right?
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Hi David,

It's not about being stupid. You-Know-Who was using S&S when he impaled his female helper. Nobody can predict when a brain fart (a technical medical term?) takes over.

I am looking forward to seeing the nail at FFFF!
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My NAIL ROULETTE in brazilian TV:

http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=zuH2sumr120

- - - and here one that is 100% safe (with a EGG...):

http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=kIm2uv1ol2Q

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Sorry - "stupid" was a bad choice of words. By maintaining focus on what you are doing, and ensuring you have a mental checklist during the effect, the risk of a "brainfart" screwing things up can be made as low as reasonable practicable. After all, the complicated procedure and considerable risks involved in driving to the gig surely outweight the simple mental process required in performing this effect. But NEVER, EVER use a spectator's hand.
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I wanted to ressurect this thread because I will be launching my new Nail Roulette in a couple of weeks. It is categorically 100% safe and someone else even selects which bags are to be crushed. It has already had some outings and I have even performed it with Boris Wild's hand. It's so safe I would be happy to use Tiger Woods' hand.

Hopefully someone will give a review soon.
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Jon, how much is this item??

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I'll know precisely at the end of this coming week but I will say that it is going to be on the expensive side.

However, it will still be much, much cheaper than a lawsuit or the cost of lost earnings Smile
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The first time you look at it, Smash and Stab appears to be a very safe version. However, it's also the version that more people seem to have injured themselves or someone else with.

I've used Scorpion and I've used Spike -- I like both of them.

Scott Alexander's "Shattered" is the only 100% safe version that I have seen. It is absolutely IMPOSSIBLE for anyone to injure himself or another person when smashing down on the bags. The drawback is that you have to smash up a beer bottle at the beginning of the routine. This is the only part of the trick that has a real chance of injury in it. You might be able to cut yourself on a sliver of glass.
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I have come to realise that a more appropriate term to use rather than "100% safe" is "accident-proof". Scott Alexander's 'Shattered' is accident-proof, as is 'The Pain Game'.
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My Russian Roulette Staple Gun Routine is also 'accident proof'.

I can't understand why people have such a hard time grasping the difference between something being '100% safe'/'accident proof' and; '100% safe'/'accident proof - so long as you don't forget what you're doing'.

Effects of this sort can only be considered 'accident proof' or '100% safe' if you are unable to bring about an unsucessful conclusion of 'taking a hit' during the routine even if you, at some point, decided masochistically that this was what exactly what you wanted to do.

By the way, if I say so myself my staple gun routine is sweet. Smile

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On 2009-05-05 04:47, Bill Palmer wrote:
The first time you look at it, Smash and Stab appears to be a very safe version. However, it's also the version that more people seem to have injured themselves or someone else with.

I've used Scorpion and I've used Spike -- I like both of them.

Scott Alexander's "Shattered" is the only 100% safe version that I have seen. It is absolutely IMPOSSIBLE for anyone to injure himself or another person when smashing down on the bags. The drawback is that you have to smash up a beer bottle at the beginning of the routine. This is the only part of the trick that has a real chance of injury in it. You might be able to cut yourself on a sliver of glass.


I came very close to injuring my eye while breaking a beer bottle doing "Shattered". A tiny sliver of glass almost went into my eye.

This looks to be safer, but I'm wondering why it's so darn expensive? It doesn't look expensive. Is this some kind of mechanical marvel?

Robert
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Hey Jon...
Saw the video of the Pain Game.
I liked the ending, but thought the hiding of the bags behind the table was very suspicious.
Any way to fix this?
And $500?
I sure hope you get more than a nail and some blocks of wood.

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Since it has already been mentioned, Shattered is the ONLY safe way to do this effect, anyone who does the others is just looking to hurt themselves and others. Don't be stupid.

Robert, man just keep the bottle farther in the bad when you break the bottle. That's rough.
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On 2009-05-06 01:29, dinger136 wrote:
Since it has already been mentioned, Shattered is the ONLY safe way to do this effect, anyone who does the others is just looking to hurt themselves and others. Don't be stupid.


Actually Scorpion is pretty harmless, the spikes are only 3/4 of an inch long and they are so close together they have a "bed of nails" effect when you press down on them.

I don't see how the performer could possible miss, but the distance between the tiny cups and the Scorpion is so small that if you miss would it would leave a few pin pricks at most.

When performing Scorpion it is a very Zen like performance. No one would be doing a 180 degree above the head Criss Angel hand slam with the Scorp Smile.

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