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loyaleagle
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First off, I'm not "really" a magician in the sense that I make a business out of it, but I've always loved skilled close-up magic and have now gotten to learning some of it. I know I have a long way to go, but I think at this point the way I think about magic makes me at least an Apprentice Magi.

Anyway, I've been working on a LOT of different types of card magic so I can get out of the "building a foundation" stage and into the "experimental" stage. This means that after I get something to the point where I'm comfortable, I try to get in front of as many of my magic-friendly friends as possible. To this effect I carry a pack of cards with B'wave tucked into it everywhere I go and generally "wow" a lot of college students.

All this being said, I have a gimmicked Scotch and Soda set glaring at me in my trunk, willing me to find some use for it. I also have come to realize that some proficiency with standard currency would probably be very useful. The problem is I really don't know where to start. S&S's reset makes it a little funky for carrying around (and I'm always afraid I'll damage the shell). Also, the set is from Sterling and the centavo is a "copia." Is this bad and does it matter?

I really don't know how to get started with ungaffed coin slights and I'm not sure what to do with the S&S (other than teleport the coin to random parts of my body/apartment). Any insights on either of those fronts? Also, any good ideas for storing and performing S&S on the move?
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If you are looking to get into coin work, there is one definative source - Modern Coin Magic by Bobo.

Most get the book, I myself prefer a DVD since I learn better by watching than reading. I carry the DVD in my store http://www.magicvault.net

The book you can pickup at any local book store - its a common enough title that most Borders and Barnes n Noble carry it. Check http://www.spoofee.com for dicount coupons for Borders - they list them often.
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How to present odd looking coins seems to to be a problem for a lot of folks when introducing them to family or friends.
One way would be to first learn a sleight of hand routine with coins similar to S&S. Out of curiosity they will want to see them and they can since they're normal. Later use S&S.
I keep my odd/foreign coins in a coin purse. Reason being that they're special. You could just as well keep them in a small envelope. First use the examinable coins and sleight of hand then, at a later time, use S&S for the same people. Or, switch envelopes.
Personally, I prefer using common coins when doing tricks casually and sort of reserve using odd coins for a more formal performance. But that's me.
You may want to check out my link to IMP below my signature for some impromptu thoughts.

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loyaleagle
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I think I am gonna go down to the store and get Modern Coin Magic by Bobo. It seems pretty unanimous that that's the thing to do. Any suggestions on individual tricks from the book?

Also, thanks, Jaz, for the info. I'm re-examining double X since it is on your site.

Does anybody else have any good ideas for the use of a scotch and soda? Is it just kind of a one-trick pony like a Sven deck?
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Here is a link to a DVD with 25 tricks that can be done with a S&S coin set...
http://www.thetrickery.com/?nd=full&key=5031 BTW there are othe coin sets out there such as Gin & Tonic with the same effect just different coins... Check out http://www.daytonamagic.com under coins for a Gin & Tonic set...Welcome to The Café!
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loyaleagle
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Just as an update, I went out and picked up Bobo's book and boy is it good. I won't be done working on that one for years. I also took the trouble of getting some half dollars from the bank so I can actually do the stuff in the book. Quarters are tough to do a back palm with.

Does anybody have any favorite tricks from Bobo's book that I should focus on in my first try with it?
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Jaz
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Try a Back Clip with quarters.

Everyone has thier own favorites.
I always liked the tricks in the 'Quick Tricks' and 'Coins Across' sections.
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I really like Gadabout Coins, Winged Silver, and the first transposition in the coins across section. I am not totally proficient at any of them, but I can pull them off for a laymen with no hold-ups. I just started gaining the confidence to perform these.

-Vinny
loyaleagle
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Wow, thanks Jaz and vpatanio! I have gotten through (reading only of course) the first few chapters and in looking ahead at the sections/tricks you mentioned, I think they will be the first ones I attempt to learn. They are both classic and extremely impressive looking to the layman (IMHO).

Having a bit of trouble making a convincing thumb palm for some reason (I find the Downs Palm comes more naturally to me) but I think I'll get it.
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I am aweful at Classic P***ing, but good at thumb Cli**ing, I practice my sleights by doing routines. It makes them feel like less of a chore and more like they are useful. If you want to practice finger P***ing, practice gadabout coins a million times, if you want to practice classic P***ing, run through wingled silver a million times, not only will you get better at P***ing, but you will have a few routines to show for it as well.

PS I am still an extreme beginner, so please take my advice as such. The more experienced veterans will comment and hopefully agree. At least then I will feel like I haven't been wasting my time Smile

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loyaleagle
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Vinny, your current experience is where I hope to be next, so your insight is very valuable to me!
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Hello everyone my name is chino I'm still a rookie but I'm learning ive found my passion in magic I seem to love coin magic I just checked out that bobos modern coim magic book at barns and nobles they have it for only $9.95 there that's pretty cheap for a book like that
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Learn "Winged Silver" from Bobo. I've gotten Sooo much mileage out of that one, and it's so simple and so amazing!
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Dear Loyal,

On behalf of both of my many Swedish friends, I must register annoyance with your crass remarks about "Sven" decks. "One trick ponies," indeed.

They, the decks and not the Swedes, can be used for many magical purposes. Forces, ambitious card routines, revelations, and many more.

You have much to learn, Grasshopper.
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loyaleagle
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Dear Sid,

While I respect what you are saying, I think the tone of my question was lost to you. I don't disagree that the sven can be used in many different ways, but I think the idea I'm referring to in my previous post is how it has a single mechanic, which then must be adapted and used in many different ways. Many members of this forum seem to think "one trick pony" is an accurate description of a sven deck.

Scotch and Soda, for instance, really only "does" one thing. I don't mean to imply that it can only be USED for one thing, though. The sven is much the same in that the mechanic only "does" one thing (in the sense that it is R/S), but there are, of course, many USES for it.
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