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Yeah I'm making society bad and I'm pathetic for being raised well and having good morals to not try or experiment with what are clearly damaging drugs...good one! And I don't even care about the effect at this moment so don't talk to me about the 'gimme' I'm just shocked at how some people are reacting to this name...there are tons of effects with weapon names in the title and no one bats an eyelid but there designed to kill and I'm sure tons of people have lost people to weapons of somesort...there just names there not promoting the use of drugs etc. I'm sure the creator just thought it would be 'cool' to have a line of effects with drugs in the title, don't ask me why I dunno but the bottom line is the name isn't hurting anybody...

...Also whats all this lives it destroys talk and making fun of it, that clearly isn't the point of the name, and the only people whose lives it destroys are the people it leaves behind because they didn't ask for it...
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"the bottom line is the name isn't hurting anybody..."

You are wrong. It is hurting magicians, and I think that means most of us here. It is also giving Darius, the creator, a bad image. All I am asking is that they stop this stupidity, no need for it.
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I'll guess I'll check back here when the discussion focus changes to what I logged on for.
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Hi Jsmith45,
Welcome to the Café! It's your first day here.

Art
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Im sorry but how is it hurting magicians?

jamie.
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Have you not been reading my posts? I guess I'll quote myself.

"It would just kill me to think that little kids would walk in a magic store or be online and see tricks like CRYSTAL METHod. What do you think the parens will think of, not only magic, but magicians as well? I am already thinking bad things about the creator, how do you think PARENTS or non-magicians will react?"

If this type of naming effects continues, it will make us and magic look BAD.

Now, let me ask YOU something. How is this HELPING magicians? Or do you think it has no effect?
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I see that there is a lot of interest in going back and forth about whether Darius naming his effects CANNIBIS and CRYSTAL METHod are acceptable behaviour. I also see that I'm not the only person who wish this thread to focus on the effect and not its name. Hence I've taken the liberty to create a separate topic for those who want to carry on that thread of discussion. The link is here: http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......forum=32

Now please help focus our discussions on the effect?
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Great!! Back to the effect.
I can't buy frm magic cave website (properly because I don't use google cart). Does anyone know where else I can ordered the effect??
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Art190 & Mad Jake : With utmost respect, nobody on this thread is advocating or trying to advocate the use of any kind of drugs. The title of the effect might have caused an unnecessary concern to a few and took the main topic totally out of context and at a tangent.

Twice I tried to bring the thread back on topic with a smile. Please see my second (related) post full of smiles and I ended the post with a  Smile  & a  Smile.

Thank you for your understanding!

Best regards,

Smile
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"nobody on this thread is advocating or trying to advocate the use of any kind of drugs"

I want to here that from Darius, the creator. He IS trying to say something by that title. CRYSTAL METHod. Come on. Why name it that, Darius?

Art
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I just want to see a full review of the effect. it could be called crack cocaine for all I care. *shrugs
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"nobody on this thread is advocating or trying to advocate the use of any kind of drugs" quote Darius..
The crystal method is called so for a very good reason when you discover how it works! It's all light fun and can be used for so many different applications!
Art190 - your sounding like a Californian policeman- lighten up!
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"The crystal method is called so for a very good reason when you discover how it works!"

I do not see how the title can relate to how the trick works. The title is CRYSTAL METHod (METH!!! The drug that kills and controls peoples lives!). Maybe if it was Crystal Method, but no..CRYSTAL METHod is the title you just HAD to choose because you thought it would just be cool and fun. What you didn't realize is that it would cause people to think bad about you and possibly magicians. Kids, or very your people will read these titles and get a thought in their heads.

"Art190 - your sounding like a Californian policeman- lighten up!"

Darius,
Sadly, you're sounding like the rest of the people doing or supporting these drugs, which you name your effects by. I do not mean to be disrespectful (just trying to make a point), but this is what I think when a person continually puts these titles on their effects. Only YOU can stop that because you are the one naming the effects. And this is just ANOTHER reason why you should stop putting drugs words in your titles. This might be a great trick, something that might change the way we do card tricks from now on, but the title has to go. Both for your benifit and ours. Will you continue to do these things or will you stop this? That is the question I would like to know.

Art
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Sure- I agree Art- supporting use is not what I or anyone else intend..

A few points- this effect is being launched with Magic Cave.

The CANNABIS effect has nothing to do with me and infact the Crystal Method name wasn't from me either.

Point understood about sensitivity.. Lets focus on the effect, as it really does take card magic to an exciting new level.

Check out July's Genii for a free sample ;-)
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Hi Guys...

there will be a free sample in July's Genii. As we give CM sample cards to magicians more and more ideas are being created daily.

With regards to the ordering, we've updated our website so you can order direct with your credit or debit card http://www.magiccave.co.uk

As the co-owner of Magic Cave we produced both the Cannabis Effect and Crystal Method and I'd like to say that none of us advocate or support use of these drugs. Some of the profits from The Cannabis Effect were donated to a drug support charity and it's likely we'll do the same with Crystal Method.
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I would just like to say I am friends with both Darius and Lee and the rest of the people at Magic Cave and they are all genuine stand up guys.

Yes the title may be contraversial and some people may have lost friends to this drug which is terrible. I myself lost my sister in a car accident when I was 16 which hit me really badly, but just look at all the games and films that are far more widespread and promoted to EVERYONE in the general public that promote driving recklessly and driving far too fast, car accidents are far more popular and threatening and it might not even be their choice as they may be passengers (like my sister). But how many people bought Grand Theft Auto IV?

Life can be harsh and unforgiving, but that is life.

This is a great effect and the possibilities seem endless and knowing the guys that have brought this out I wouldn't be surprised if they donated more money to an anti drugs campaign through the release of this effect.

Ben
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On 2008-06-05 11:37, Lee_Hathaway wrote:
As the co-owner of Magic Cave we produced both the Cannabis Effect and Crystal Method and I'd like to say that none of us advocate or support use of these drugs. Some of the profits from The Cannabis Effect were donated to a drug support charity and it's likely we'll do the same with Crystal Method.


So now when we look at the title of the effect it will remind us that it's for a good cause. Maybe now the thread can lean back on topic...
How many Magicians does it take to advertise a trick? Three.. One to steal the trick. One to steal HIS trick. And one to write a good review.
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On 2008-06-05 12:12, Nechto wrote:
I would just like to say I am friends with both Darius and Lee and the rest of the people at Magic Cave and they are all genuine stand up guys.

Yes the title may be contraversial and some people may have lost friends to this drug which is terrible. I myself lost my sister in a car accident when I was 16 which hit me really badly, but just look at all the games and films that are far more widespread and promoted to EVERYONE in the general public that promote driving recklessly and driving far too fast, car accidents are far more popular and threatening and it might not even be their choice as they may be passengers (like my sister). But how many people bought Grand Theft Auto IV?

Life can be harsh and unforgiving, but that is life.

This is a great effect and the possibilities seem endless and knowing the guys that have brought this out I wouldn't be surprised if they donated more money to an anti drugs campaign through the release of this effect.

Ben


VERY true Ben. Although, there has been a fair bit of complaining about products like GTA.
It's amazing, people will criticize you for "biting the hand that feeds you," while they're busy praising the hand that beats them.

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On 2008-06-04 22:39, Ustaad wrote:
Art190 & Mad Jake : With utmost respect, nobody on this thread is advocating or trying to advocate the use of any kind of drugs. The title of the effect might have caused an unnecessary concern to a few and took the main topic totally out of context and at a tangent.

Twice I tried to bring the thread back on topic with a smile. Please see my second (related) post full of smiles and I ended the post with a  Smile  & a  Smile.

Thank you for your understanding!

Best regards,

Smile


Narendra,

it is our constitutional right to speak our mind here in the US. I don't think you are aware about the drug epidemic here in our country, otherwise you would not respond this way. We had many great conversations and I respect you a lot.
Since you are in India and don't have a real 'drug' problem there I forgive your comments. What if somebody would name an effect about the slaughtering of cows in India? Would you support that?

POINT IS: There is absolutely no reason or excuse to name a magic trick after a viscious drug that is killing thousands of teenagers and adults daily or even worse turning them into Zombies. There is also no reason or excuse to call ANY legal product after an illicit and viscious drug, PERIOD. Only the naive and irresponsible humans on this planet with a 'care less' attitude will NOT go any further in their life.
And, I hope for all of you who don't care or support the fact of products bearing names of illicit drugs to never ever have children...at least not in this lifetime.

Now go enjoy CRYSTAL METHod...Perhaps Darius should include a little Meth with his trick so the kids come for MORE...like some New York drug dealers lace little characters like Smile Smile with LSD or Heroin.

I tell you what thou...you will not last very long 'dealing' it...Ethics has it's price.
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On 2008-06-05 23:57, Silvio Solaris wrote:
Narendra,

it is our constitutional right to speak our mind here in the US. I don't think you are aware about the drug epidemic here in our country, otherwise you would not respond this way. We had many great conversations and I respect you a lot.
Since you are in India and don't have a real 'drug' problem there I forgive your comments. What if somebody would name an effect about the slaughtering of cows in India? Would you support that?


Hi Silvio,

Understood and point taken.

Best,

Narendra

Smile

P.S. Incidentally I live 6 months in the US and 6 months in India. Smile

  
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