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This may be a bit confusing but this is me and the post above isn't!!

I was jamming with Darius the other day and we took a look here on the Café, I signed in and it seems Darius still has me logged in!!

Hey Darius, maybe I should call you but if you see this stop stealing my identity!!!!!!

The 'real' Nechto - Ben!!
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The routines in the Genii are really nice, some very good ideas.

Hey Angelo, you still didn't add me on the PS3.
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I did. You are added, just not online when I am Smile

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The Ginii is out now? Kool. I'll have to pick it up.

Any who, Am I the only one who is constantly having trouble getting the magiccave site to work?
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Genii arrived. I think there are many great uses for this item/method. But it will require some audience management.

However, for signature transfers, you know that the spectator will want to examine the card, which will be a problem.

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Yeah, I keep getting this page:
http://wsearch.net/?unknown
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Er... is anyone else getting an issue when going to http://www.magiccave.co.uk

It seems fine from my computer...
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I got the genii and I am not sure if I got a defective card or not because it looked frosted, is it supposed to look more clear?
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I showed a quick variation using the card from Genii to a relative, and he said he sees something on top of the card. It didn't look normal to him.
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On 2008-06-19 18:40, magicman4646 wrote:
I showed a quick variation using the card from Genii to a relative, and he said he sees something on top of the card. It didn't look normal to him.


This trick sounds silly to me.
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Basically, he saw the 'gimmick' on my cards. It's a very interesting idea, but if people can see the gimmick than I don't want to perform it.
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We've performed this hundreds of times with no issue... Its near impossible to see the gimmick when used correctly.
The DVD will explain loads more on handling.

Hold it on the entire pack and try again.
Also best not using kings, queens or Jacks.. Also good to keep a metre or two away from the spectator. There is far more than just using this as a shell..
Try the ambitious card effect..
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On 2008-06-19 07:17, jcroop wrote:
* Genii arrived. I think there are many great uses for this item/method.

* But it will require some audience management.

* However, for signature transfers, you know that the spectator will want to examine the card, which will be a problem.



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On 2008-06-19 18:40, magicman4646 wrote:
I showed a quick variation using the card from Genii to a relative, and he said he sees something on top of the card. It didn't look normal to him.


Hmmm!

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That's pretty much why I suggested the bit with the mirror- so you wind up with a clearly impossible object and "have to" fix it Smile back to its original condition by taking the card and pen back to the mirror and "undoing" the whole process. Smile
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The card type has been specially chosen.
When you have a pack of these cards you can not see more than 15 cards down, allowing chosen cards to appear in the middle of the pack

There are so many uses for this as the DVD highlights

Even omnideck 2 !
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Ok, so I think we can gather what it is now, lol. Perhaps a bit too much info has slipped out.

Any who, I can certainly see a huge potential here, but it also has some serious limitations with regards to what can be done with the card with a duplicate signature on it, which, unlike the ad implies, is not instant, but would require doing it under the pretense of something else.

This duplicate signed card, I would imagine, wouldn't be able to be, at least not easily, destroyed in full view, for example without destroying the gimmick as well.

Similarly, as mentioned a transfered signature would not be examinable, and unless you combined the two, so that you accomplished the transfered signature by using the duplicating method, you would not be able to have any card examined while signed.

So, if they just sign to the gimmick, I am guessing, no cards are examinable while signed, but if they sign their card, and then you use the duplicating method, then at least you can transfer the sig BACK to the original card and have THAT one examined.

Any who, don't take any of this as complaining or ragging on the product, I am just thinking out loud. I think this has tonnes of potential and can't wait to get one, but I do not thin, for me, it will replace Forgery, for example, which, to be completely honest, I would have been ecstatic if it did, (Forgery leaves the new card with the signature on it examinable, which was the strong point I was hoping for from Crystal Method) but MAY make for some interesting other uses and such.

Please, again, don't take that as the shameless self promotion plug that it is Smile just thinking on the keyboard.
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... I really hope its more than just a p**ce of tra***** p**** with sti*** propertie because that has been a mthod for ages... I found out about that a while back when I started a thread in secret sessions regarding signature transfers... I hope that the value is some sort of unique handling if it is that... heck, people have used that method since ov**h**d pro***** came out?

Well, I look forward to finding out when it gets released.
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Does anybody know if CM will be carried by any of the dealers at the IBM/Sam Convention? I will like to see it demonstrated there in person.
Also, maybe I missed it but when using a Sharpie I assume it must be a Dry Erase. Is that correct?
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Since ov**h**d pro***** (what???) came out?
It's amazing, people will criticize you for "biting the hand that feeds you," while they're busy praising the hand that beats them.

"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."

I won't forget you Robert.
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