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"but just look at all the games and films that are far more widespread and promoted to EVERYONE in the general public that promote driving recklessly and driving far too fast"

So that makes it OK for you guys to do the same? Give me a break.

"This is a great effect and the possibilities seem endless and knowing the guys that have brought this out I wouldn't be surprised if they donated more money to an anti drugs campaign through the release of this effect."

In another thread, someone mentioned this seems fishy. Now that I realize, it does indeed seem fishy that all of a sudden you mention you donate an ammount of money to anti drug campaigns. Like people have said in the other thread, do you have proof?

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MODS, PLEASE LOCK THIS THREAD! It is off the topic of the trick and is getting out of hand. I want to discuss the trick, not the name or what effects drugs have on our country.

I am a recovering addict for almost 12 years, have a family, have a great profession in this business and I don't feel the need to dwell on a name of a trick even if it is related to drugs.

PLEASE LOCK THIS THREAD coming from someone who understands both sides, I personally think that it is just as wrong to harass people that have the right to name things as they choose, it is the creators right to do so and we have chosen to turn this thread into a a pathetic attempt to voice our opinions on drugs and the perceived drug problem in our country.

If anyone has a problem with what I just wrote feel free to PM me, I just feel this isn't the place as this thread was suppose to be about the effect that is coming out, not what the meaning of the name is or could be.

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Hi Guys - I am so excited I just had to come on and tell everyone I've worked out the coolest routine with Crystal Method. I'll give you the details here and HOPEFULLY we've just about got time to include it on the instructional DVD. I've tried it on a few laypeople in my local residency and literally FLOORED them!!

So here's the effect...a card is selected and signed. Within seconds it appears inside the card box. Then you tell them to take their card and the box behind their back and place their card into the box. You give them a box of matches and ask them to strike a match above the card box. Without ever having touched the card box since they placed their card inside you very cleanly open it to show it's vanished. They open the matchbox and inside is their card, folded up!

Incidentally for those interested, there is now a seperate thread to discuss the subject of naming of effects etc, so hopefully myself and the many UK close-up guys involved in this project will be able to post some productive stuff on this thread to keep everyone updated on the development!
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Hey, I agree with this - the sub-topic likely should be in RIGHT AND WRONG and someone can just post a link to it from here for the interested.

The reality is, there are valid points from each person posting - and that one shouldn't just dismiss them or try to polarize the discussion so much as coming to this point perhaps... if the creators really are giving some proceeds to fight substance use problems, they should just place it in their ad and say exactly how and where the money is going.

Personal example: I am still working on an omnibus Jack the Ripper book of bizarre magic - there was a lot of hesitation and fear of some contributors to give to the project until they understood it was with theme that the goal was to highlight the dangers of violence in society, the sickness of the media, what is the twisted appeal of Jack, and use the routines to help educate and make people think about how to improve society. The proceeds will be going to an international organization that helps women victims of violence.

My humble suggestion - if the creators are really on the same tack, just clarity it. It would be noble to basically create effects that some of the proceeds go to help those suffering from the addiction.

And for those who do not see the points that Mad Jake made as having some validity, just stop and reflect and think a moment.

In any case, the effect itself looks amazing!
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THE EFFECT IS AMAZING
A COMPLETELY NEW BREAKTHROUGH IN CARD MAGIC

PLEASE COMMENT
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"THE EFFECT IS AMAZING
A COMPLETELY NEW BREAKTHROUGH IN CARD MAGIC"

You can count me out, as many probably have.
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Ok for those who are to much of a wimp to use this when it comes out just because of the name... Well that's a loss for you guys because this creates really strong effects.
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It is very sad that people are overdosing on drugs. But, it is their life and if they choose to kill themselves... -THINNING THE HERD-

I see nothing wrong with a clever name like CRYSTAL METHod. I find it humorous actually. Can't wait to purchase it.
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If the CM "method" looks good enough close up it will probably start being called something like "CM" - so not IMHO it's down to the quality of the item.

So can you hold their signed card up to a mirror and then have their card change places with the card from "mirror world"? Smile
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I think that it would be wise to just lowercase the METH. Not that I am personally offended but its clear that that some are. A rose by any other name..
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On 2008-06-05 23:57, Silvio Solaris wrote:
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On 2008-06-04 22:39, Ustaad wrote:
Art190 & Mad Jake : With utmost respect, nobody on this thread is advocating or trying to advocate the use of any kind of drugs. The title of the effect might have caused an unnecessary concern to a few and took the main topic totally out of context and at a tangent.

Twice I tried to bring the thread back on topic with a smile. Please see my second (related) post full of smiles and I ended the post with a Smile & a Smile.

Thank you for your understanding!

Best regards,

Smile


Narendra,

it is our constitutional right to speak our mind here in the US . . . .


But this is not the US, this is The Magic Café Smile
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...and the Magic Café is located in the United States. Atleast where they take their checks at.

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Hi Guys...

there will be a free sample in July's Genii. As we give CM sample cards to magicians more and more ideas are being created daily.


So what you're saying is, the first ones free, then you're gonna start charging? Hmmmm where have I heard that before? Smile
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...and the Magic Café is located in the United States. Atleast where they take their checks at.

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/donate.php?mail=1


But the Café is located online, and it has its own rules with regards to what we can talk about.
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I will be getting this to see the working behind it. I tend to stay out of topics which people are emotionally attached to. I believe everyone has the right to their opinion, and should not be called out over it. I wish you all well to a good and fair debate, and I wish the creator well in his new release and concept.

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What am I missing? They're just colour changes?


I’m with you on this one, what the hell am I missing??

The first thing I saw on the demo was the only thing that looked new to me and it was very good but all the rest of the demo just look like regular color changes I already know??

Please enlighten me because the demo was poor from my view!

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On 2008-05-01 16:12, ragingcalm wrote:
What am I missing? They're just colour changes?


Im with you on this one?? What the hell am I missing??

The first thing I saw on the demo was the only thing that looked new to me and it was very good but all the rest of the demo just look like regular colour changes I already know??

Please enlighten me because the demo was poor from my view!

Magico563.

Yeah all the moves are standard color changes but did you notice how the signature of the spectator stayed the same. With this you can transfer the signature of a spectator to a different card or duplicate it! You can do very good card to impossible location tricks or card thru window or many other tricks that require duplicates but now you can do this with a signed card! Very many things are possible with this.
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On 2008-05-01 16:12, ragingcalm wrote:
What am I missing? They're just colour changes?


Im with you on this one?? What the hell am I missing??

The first thing I saw on the demo was the only thing that looked new to me and it was very good but all the rest of the demo just look like regular colour changes I already know??

Please enlighten me because the demo was poor from my view!

Magico563.

Yeah all the moves are standard color changes but did you notice how the signature of the spectator stayed the same. With this you can transfer the signature of a spectator to a different card or duplicate it! You can do very good card to impossible location tricks or card thru window or many other tricks that require duplicates but now you can do this with a signed card! Very many things are possible with this.


No, because the only time I saw a card change to another card still with the same sig was at the beginning and the rest of the demo was just full of shots where a card had no sig but then it did have a sig and that could be just with just a duplicate card??

Magico563.
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On 2008-06-07 12:54, jamie9 wrote:
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On 2008-06-07 12:50, magico563 wrote:
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On 2008-05-01 16:12, ragingcalm wrote:
What am I missing? They're just colour changes?


Im with you on this one?? What the hell am I missing??

The first thing I saw on the demo was the only thing that looked new to me and it was very good but all the rest of the demo just look like regular colour changes I already know??

Please enlighten me because the demo was poor from my view!

Magico563.

Yeah all the moves are standard color changes but did you notice how the signature of the spectator stayed the same. With this you can transfer the signature of a spectator to a different card or duplicate it! You can do very good card to impossible location tricks or card thru window or many other tricks that require duplicates but now you can do this with a signed card! Very many things are possible with this.


No, because the only time I saw a card change to another card still with the same sig was at the beginning and the rest of the demo was just full of shots where a card had no sig but then it did have a sig and that could be just with just a duplicate card??

Magico563.

Yeah I don't know why they include those in the the demo. I think like the fourth change was cool. You know the one where there is only one (spectators)signature on the card and then the magicians signature appears on it too.
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There is more to it than colour changes. Its a utility gimmick. Many effects possible.

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