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martyjacobs
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On 2009-01-29 07:47, El Mystico wrote:
Martyjacobs says the Vernon handling lacks a good ending....but I have to disagree. You've just shown all the cards face down. You've done this *** thing three times down and they are watching intently. You do nothing. The SPECTATOR rubs the cards...the spade turns over.
Another vote for Vernon!


I just think the last twist should be the most impressive; you could argue that the second twist is the most shocking because it is a reversal wrapped up in a transposition.

I agree that involving a spectator in the final twist is a good way to make the last twist more memorable (you could also put the cards in a wallet or envelope to isolate them, thus eliminating the possibility of SOH). However, the very fact that you need to do something like this highlights that the ending is weak. I think it needs changing, even if just on a presentational level.

I'm not suggesting that the orginal is bad, quite the opposite, I just think that TTA is a good example of an effect that is greatly improved by the addition of some kind of LOGICAL kicker ending.

I don't want to hijack this thread, so I shall make another suggestion Smile: "Power Trip" by Peter Duffie includes an excellent, very direct twisting phase called "A Crisp Twist" by Mark Tiffney.

Kind regards,

Marty
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Another vote for Vernon here.

Im in the middle of moving house so I cant get to my books right now, but the AOA series has a very nice twisting the aces routine, where 3 chosen cards appear between the aces as a climax, although I cant be more specific as to which book because I don't have them right now

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On 2009-03-22 14:26, MagicbyCarlo wrote:
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On 2008-06-19 03:31, Kjellstrom wrote:
Fred Kaps version, my favourite, easy to do. Yoy can find the explanation in Fred Kaps lecture.

Watch a video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIOcugPweoA

I actually needed your video in addition to the written Kapp's routine to make this work. I didn't find the version in the notes a good explanation. I also assume your presentation uses a DB rather than what is suggested in the notes.


I added some "twists" on Fred Kaps routine, plus, I normally ends with a color change of all backs as a killer ending.

Kaps Lecture Book: https://midwestmagic.net/shop/item.asp?itemid=475

FRED KAPS group on Facebook, join: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=32350776606
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Do check this one out to. You may like it, and it's only five bucks...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNLZTmV8kR0
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Hey all,

I actually like the "twising the aces plus" by Archiro? (I think that is his name). Almost the same as Vernons but the ace of spades has a different coloured back and this is revealed at the end as the kicker. Not sure where to get the instructions for it though.

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On 2009-04-03 00:09, nathanernest wrote:
Hey all,

I actually like the "twising the aces plus" by Archiro? (I think that is his name). Almost the same as Vernons but the ace of spades has a different coloured back and this is revealed at the end as the kicker. Not sure where to get the instructions for it though.
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The effect "Twisting the Ace Plus" is from the DVD "Card Master DVD by Ichiro Araki"
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John Mendoza also had a version where the back of the last ace changed color, and it changed into a KS. See "Twisting The Aces Again" in "The Book of John".

Quite frankly I don't think the routine has a weak ending without any extra changes. There's a famous quote, "Sell the sizzle, not the steak!"

Points to Note:

Present is as a challenge. Tell them exactly what you are going to do beforehand.

Do it very slowly.

Remind them you have done exactly what you said you would.

My final pose is holding two aces in each hand at either side of my face and pausing for applause after saying:
"And that just uses four aces, two hands and a charming personality!....Well, two out of three anyway".

Of course, not suitable for every condition, but I think the best version of the routine in print or on DVD is my own "Twist In A Glass" to be found in "Magic From The Overground" or the "Clever Card Magic" DVD set.

Many versions with 'extra' endings are discussed in the book "Small But Deadly"

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Michael, I love the look of your Twisting the Aces effect. I do have one question, is it impromptu or gimmicked. It doesn't matter to me, I'm just curious.
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This is a video of my favorite variation called French Twists by Richard Vollmer. As someone mentioned earlier, is kind of a long routine but a good one IMHO.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mji6v3Y95MM

The trick can be found in Impromptu Packet Tricks DVD by Aldo Colombini. However I have not been able to find it in a book.
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Martin1025, that is a nice variation to TTA. If anyone out there knows where this is published in a book could comment I would greatly appreciate it.
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Apart from Vernon's original, I'm surprised nobody mentioned the second best of all- Royal Twist by Larry Jennings.

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I'm partial to Robert E. Neale's version "Fly Sport".

Uses the classic handling, but is a delightful little story that ends with a humorous joke involving 3 samurai who test each others skills by "sporting with flies" - uses club-suit spot cards to represent the flies.

It can be found in his book "Life, Death, and Other Card Tricks".

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On 2009-01-29 07:47, El Mystico wrote:
Martyjacobs says the Vernon handling lacks a good ending....but I have to disagree. You've just shown all the cards face down. You've done this *** thing three times down and they are watching intently. You do nothing. The SPECTATOR rubs the cards...the spade turns over.
Another vote for Vernon!


Just that I do perform, too. So I vote for VERNON!
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Dai Vernon.

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I really enjoy doing Elmsley's "Hoftwister" Essentially it's twisting the aces with a card revelation at the end.

As follows,

Audience has just selected a card, and the 4 aces are showing and the audience is told, one at a time, each of the 4 aces is going to turn face up, when this happens, it will eliminate that suit and by the end the final ace will hopefully be the same suit as yours.

Gets down to the final card and is turned over to reveal that it is their card.

Very nice
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Hoftwister is a superb effect that many seem to pass up...it's one of my favs from "The Collected Works Of Alex Elmsley" Vol. I.

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Vernon for sure. Ungimmicked and great.
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[quote]On 2008-06-19 03:31, Kjellstrom wrote:
Fred Kaps version, my favourite, easy to do. Yoy can find the explanation in Fred Kaps lecture.

Yep, I like Fred's version too. Nice colour change of the backs to finish.
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It's been almost two years since I first asked this question and started this thread. I've since learned the original (Vernon's), and love it. Works for me.
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I will tell all why I love this post. It was phrased CORRECTLY. How many times have we seen this: "What is the best (insert effect name here) in print?" or, even WORSE: "What version of (insert effect name here) should I use in my act"? ACK!!!!!!!

Thank you Corbett for phrasing it correctly. You asked us our opinion thus implying what we think works best for each of us, not what we think might work best for you. Also your post shows you DO your homework! Smile

I don't really HAVE a favourite. If I am feeling gaffy, I do Vollmer's Hyper-Twist. But, since I rarely feel gaffy these days I use the original or the method used by Dave Campbell in his truly splendiferous routine About Turn.

Ahimsa,
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