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impossible man
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Okay. got it. I thinking of just getting rich another way, then I can make myself famous.
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I did not read the article, but every month when I resubmit my web site I use the web address that my IP gave me, and not my domain address, but I was advised to do it that way by bla bla bla in order to be search engine friendly. There are some things I simply will not talk about.
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On 2008-05-19 15:38, Al Angello wrote:
I did not read the article,


Perhaps you should, I'm making a wild guess here, but I think Steve knows more about SEO & Web Marketing than you do. You should also probably check out his comments on Google Adwords. I don't think he agrees with your view that they are a "suckers game".

bb

p.s. for someone who wasn't going to post on this forum any more you certainly have been doing a fair bit. Care to explain your change of mind or will you just delete this post like the last two?
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On 2008-05-19 15:38, Al Angello wrote:
I did not read the article, but every month when I resubmit my web site I use the web address that my IP gave me, and not my domain address, but I was advised to do it that way by bla bla bla in order to be search engine friendly. There are some things I simply will not talk about.


According to that article, what you're doing is helping to promote Comcast and not your actual domain name, which is getting poor rankings. However submitting the site is not the reason your site is getting ranks, it's the inbound links going to comcast.

What I get from that post is that it's more of a long-term problem. More than likely, sometime down the road, comcast will change something or eliminate the free hosting and your site is not SEO friendly.
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Mr bb
I am back because those who value my opinion demanded that I ignore the naysayers.

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My web site has 28,000 hits from people looking to hire entertainment. What is your point my angry friend?
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Angry? I think you're the angry one Al. The point is this - you are posting SEO advice as if you're an expert when in fact, you're not even aware why your site is getting the rankings it is. The article spells it all out and is backed with facts. You can choose to ignore it as it's probably not going to have any affect on your site since it's more of a long-term issue. That said, personally I feel your views on SEO & Google Adwords is more harmful than useful.
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Don't listen to the naysayers AL. You rool when it comes to the SERPS. You are all about the facts.
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Hey, Al....I'm curious. You say you've gotten 28,000 "hits" to your site. Is that 28,000 unique visitors? What is the time frame for getting those hits? You've had your site up for 10+ years, is that right? I'm just trying to get a reference to compare my site numbers which has been up for less than a year. I don't know if my numbers are good or bad, so I'd like to know how they compare to yours. Thanks in avance for your clarification, Al.
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Simon
It is good to get PM's my friends, and hear from nice people like you.

Hi Al
My meta tags are set up to only attract local inquiries, so I guess that those hits are mainly from local companies, and mom's. I am also listed on several free entertainment directories, but everything is set up for locals people to find me. I get about 5 hits a day. I hope that answers your question.
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On 2008-05-20 03:03, LVMagicAL wrote:
Hey, Al....I'm curious. You say you've gotten 28,000 "hits" to your site. Is that 28,000 unique visitors? What is the time frame for getting those hits?


I'd say based on Al's reply of "5 hits a day", he's counting hits and not unique visitors - which for those of you who do not know the difference, is a completely different number with a completely different meaning.

If Al's site got 5 unique visitors a day for the past 10 years, that would add up to just over 18,000.
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You are right my friend I do not know the difference between a unique, and an ununique visitor, but I also get several phone calls, and email messages a week from local mom's and companies that find me through a internet search, and want to know more information about my services. I never claimed to be an expert, I just use is common sense. My estimate of 5 hits a day is accurate give or take 10,000 hits.
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Here's the difference between a "hit" and a "unique visitor". A unique visitor is just that - a person visiting your website. The way that is counted is your web server sees the IP address of that person and stores that information.

A "hit" is anytime a successful call is made on the server. For example, say you have a web page with 4 images on it. That would count as 5 hits - the actual html web page counts as 1 hit, each images on that page counts as another hit (or 4 more hits in my example). While we look at a web page as one entity - the complete item that appears on our monitors, the web server that's hosting that page sees each item that makes up that page as a separate document and counts each document (images, html pages, flash files, etc) as a separate hit.
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Thanks for the definition. I have never got multiple clicks on my meter from a single visitor, but by the same token I have no idea how many pages each visitor looks at. As long as my phone keeps ringing I'm a happy boy.
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I recently discovered the "statistics" tool that my web site hosting company (1and1.com) makes available to me. It allows me to see how many "hits", how many "unique visitors', which pages they visit, and a WHOLE LOT more. That information is extremely valuable to help me understand what viewers are looking at, what they might be missing and how I might restructure my web-site to be more user friendly.

My kid-show site has been up for a little less than a year and I've done my own site design, key-words, meta tags, etc;. It's also targeted to my local market area with key words, meta tags, etc; I do use Google Ad Words and with all of these components combined, I'm seeing a range from a daily low of 27 to a high of 47 unique visitors each day (over the past month). 45% of my visitors come from Google "organic" searches, 13% from Yahoo searches, 7% from MSN searches, 6% from my gateway site (which I use to promote my business in general when I don't promote a specific market niche), and 5% come from Google Adwords, which I have a $50 monthly budget, but rarely spend more than $20 or so. The rest of my site visitors are unable to be classified or are from other links out there in cyber world.

With all of these hits and visits, my phone STILL isn't ringing as much as I'd like. My hope was that Al was getting 100 or more hits per day and as a result had more business than he could handle. I figured I could aspire to 100 unique visits per day......The way it looks, I'm getting more hits, more visits, etc;, but I'm not converting those visits to paying clients. Apparently, I've got some work to do on my site.

Thanks for sharing Al......
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Since you're using Adwords, you should also consider using Google Analytics which is one of the best stats data available. It's free and easy to implement, just drop some code onto your pages.
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A hundred unique hits a day is a very large portion of the Las Vegas population. If you had an escort service with sexually explicit photos on your web site you might get that many hits, but for a magic show it just isn't possible.

I pass out thousands of business cards a year, I have about ten agencies that use me from time to time, I get a lot of bookings from word of mouth, I have colleague performers that refer customers to me. My point is that you have to work all of the angles to make a living.
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And that's where I'm falling short right now. It's a little tough with two small kids by day and teaching college at night. My wife is a high school teacher, I'll have some time to market and make sales calls during our summer "vacation." For now I really need the break anyway, and finals week is in two weeks.
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Al in Las Vegas,

I think you're going to have a difficult time getting top 10 rankings for Las Vegas magician or Las Vegas magic show, but you may find other search terms giving you some results. With that in mind - keep up the AdWords. You're not spending that much, so it's worth keeping that going.

Al Angello,

You're absolutely correct with your last post. Getting top 10 listings in the search engine is just one part of an overall marketing plan and certainly NOT a magic bullet! Sometimes it just takes time & experience to build contacts in your area.
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Networking is something you have to grow into, and it is essential to make friends in order to get ahead. Last week I had a bar tender call me for a job he heard about. Whoda thunk it?


We have not even touched on the content of your web site which in many ways is far more inportant that how many hits you get.

Al
Even though you are in Vegas if you are in the kid, or family market it may not be that crowded.
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On 2008-05-20 13:40, Domino Magic wrote:
Since you're using Adwords, you should also consider using Google Analytics which is one of the best stats data available. It's free and easy to implement, just drop some code onto your pages.


I've used Google analytics and it's not bad for a freebie, but it's only really useful for reporting broad trends. For the details I want, I find it's worth paying a few bucks a month for some really good tools.

I'm going to plug the statistics tool that I use again because I love it! It gives me all the general info in charts and graphs and lists, but you can also drill down in incredible detail. I know pretty much everything there is to know about every visitor to my website. What city they're in, how the found me (referrers and keywords), what pages on my site they looked at, how long they spent on each page (and that's just the tip of the iceberg).

You'd be surprised at how useful information like that can be at times. Check out their sample stat's or sign up for a free account and see what your think.

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