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I didn't know that he got shot in the heart!

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On 2008-05-16 17:13, Caveat Lector wrote:
I have heard that they were beaten out by a magician call Kim Chi doing the Hummer/UFO Card around the body. The Pendragons performed their pole levitation and that beat them. Just goes to show you that this show is not about talent and all about BS! This of course is not offical yet but just somEthing that I heard.

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I may be speaking out of place, but the original post stated that it was not official that the Pendragons got booted and only something that was heard about the Pendragons...no one has stepped up who is really in the know who confirmed this...it may be premature to announce the death of the Pendragons act. They did very well last night and he had a compelling story as he shared about his accident. It's been stated elsewhere here on the Café that AGT is looking for bigger acts so I'm not sure that the UFO card alone who allow someone to advance.
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The Pendragons in Vegas... Hmmmmmm, what a novel idea! Smile
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These shows are NOT about finding undiscovered talent. They are about ratings and marketing. The more successful the act, the bigger cut the production company gets out of the acts future revenue.


After reading an article in the Linking Ring a couple months back I found and fell in love with the story of Paul Potts from Britian's got talent 1 year ago. Amazing guy (little heavy set)- humble - sob story - low self esteem - INCREDIBLE voice. He comes out to sing opera and gets wierd looks from the judges. Sings a song and goes on to win.

Fast forward 1 year. America's got talent. Heavy set - african american - sob story comes out to sing opera AND IT'S THE SAME SONG. Also the American had an OK voice but his effort was to reach the high note. When Paul sang the song his effort was in belting out the high note he didn't have to struggle to reach it. (IMHO)

The producers are re-creating the winning story from Britian's version.

I was kidding last night with my wife watching the show with the Pendragons. Imagining the Judges trying to talk to the Pendragons
"You can go to Vegas to perform......Oh wait"
"You can be on TV.....Oh wait"
"You'll be able to tour the world....Oh wait"
"You'll be famous in the magic community....Oh wait"

You've already done all that.
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On 2008-05-16 17:13, Caveat Lector wrote:
I have heard that they were beaten out by a magician call Kim Chi doing the Hummer/UFO Card around the body. The Pendragons performed their pole levitation and that beat them. Just goes to show you that this show is not about talent and all about BS! This of course is not offical yet but just somEthing that I heard.

John


I may be speaking out of place, but the original post stated that it was not official that the Pendragons got booted and only something that was heard about the Pendragons...no one has stepped up who is really in the know who confirmed this...it may be premature to announce the death of the Pendragons act. They did very well last night and he had a compelling story as he shared about his accident. It's been stated elsewhere here on the Café that AGT is looking for bigger acts so I'm not sure that the UFO card alone who allow someone to advance.


These shows have been shot way in advance. They said that the Pendragons auditioned in Chicago and they actually auditioned in LA. When I said that they got kicked off I was referring to when it actually happend, nt when America finds out. I hope that clers things up a bit. Also, I am very much in the know as to what is happening on this show, and I am not saying this to be mean or start a fight just to clear up your question. They will lose after they perform the pole levitation.

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We all must keep in mind that through all of this it is a TV show and TV show are about one thing only. .....RATINGS! The TV executives will do whatever they feel they need to fo t 1) get people talking about the show and 2) get people tuning in to watch it. In this way, the show really can not be viewed as a real contest of sorts because it really isn't that way at all. there will be the really really bad acts that get airtime. There will be the sob stories of old people tap dancing. There will even be professionals invited to perform. It is all to get us talking and tuning in. It seems to be working. Just my thoughts.

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I'm upset that acts as professional as the Pendragons are on this amateur talent show.

It's my hope to enter the show next season, but knowing that I'm going to be competing against illusionist with 30 years of television work, and illusions that costs millions. Not to mention that they can enter through the backdoor, have all their props delivered to them, while I have to drag my props in a waiting line for hours...

I don't stand a chance against an act that has all that preparation time and money.

I know they are looking for decent acts, but looking at the lineup, they must be paying for so many to perform, what chance do I really have?

Also, the Pendragons only did the standard sub-trunk illusion, as per the instructions and got through!
That illusions been so over done, and so many other magicians have performed it on the exact same stage... but they never made it through!
That tells me that the producers have told the judges to let them in, even though they must have seen the trick a dozen times already. Again, it lowers the chances that I will even be seen in the pre-lineup credit sequence. Never mind the show.

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Steve:

I do understand what you are saying but once again understand that this is a TV show done for ratings. It is not and should not be viewed as a legit contest because it simply is not. Does it stink that certainly things are handled certain ways? Sure it does but it is TV and that is what anyone should expect from a TV show. In regards to the pendragons and the subtrunk, they are the best and fastest in the world. No one does it as beautifully as they have for years. They got moved on because they were fantastic at it and also because of their interest story. You combine a professional with a good act and a good story and a TV executive starts to salivate over it. It makes for good TV. Would not surprise me to see them go a round or two and then get kicked off though. Just my thoughts.

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I don't know why everyone is saying they didn't make it through. The made it to the vegas call backs.

Yes they will eventually be beat by an unknown act, they did make it through.

I however was hoping to see the old trunk, and usual music, which I do enjoy much more, the effect itself was flawless and as great as it has ever been.

I hope they make it at least two more rounds like kevin james did.
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Nowhere is AGT called an "amateur talent show". Some of the folks may not be as well known as others, but most of them have many years of experience performing and, after all, a million bucks is a million bucks.

As for your comment "... the standard sub-trunk illusion, as per the instructions..." you must have never seen the Pendragons perform it.

If your act is good enough, you can make it, regardless of how many years of television experience someone else has and how much money they spent on their illusions.
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But I don't have a scar to show, or some horror story to get the symphony votes. I could make one up, but that's not a reasons I want to get through.

Also, I have seen the sub-trunk done in many ways, some a lot better than that. Wasn't it just last week they had the guy doing the transparent sub-trunk while under water?
Criss Angel performs it with a wall of fire.
Copperfield performs it with wind machines, and produces an extra assistant.
I think Siegfried and Roy produced a tiger from the trunk.

I'm not saying its a bad illusions, and with only 90 seconds to perform in, I can understand why they chose it. All other illusions require you to show its authenticity first, which takes too long. I've just seen them do bigger and better illusions on the Disney world of magic special.
Perhaps the heart problem restricts them from doing other tricks?

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Steve:

The matter of fact here is that the subtrunk and the transformation speed in which they do it and present it is a trademak and signature bit for them. It is really the single one thing that any person recalls of the Pendragons when asked. It also is the easiet for them to transport and gives that quick visual WOW that they need for a round one appearance. This is why I personally feel they chose to perform that.

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Symphony votes?
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...sort of like the Boston Sympathy Orchestra...
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AGT is a show case for talent in the US (or lack of it)that's all. It's not amature hour...though it looks like it.

Last year's winner didn't come up with his routines the night before. He's performed them many times...and the show has gotten him the biggest contract he's ever seen. So it's open to all who dare try.
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Rigfht it is open to those who want to try. However, folks just need to open their eyes and also realize exactly what the show is and what it is not and what they are up against. Then you can decide for yourself if you feel it is worth it.

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I didn't know that he got shot in the heart!

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He didn't.

At home, he fell off a ladder onto an arrow(s)which was on the ground.
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I am just glad that he was able to come back from it as strongly as he has and still be able to perform the way he wants to perform.

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Did anyone else notice that the top of the trunk just looked like a giant trap door? Even a laypeep I was watching the show with said (rather disappointedly I might add), "Man, I didn't know how that trick was done, but I think I do now."
It's all in the reflexes.
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